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Honeycombe8

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61. Yes, the environment is serious. But so is healthcare. It doesn't matter...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:30 PM
Feb 2012

if the air is clean, if you're dead. It matters to the remaining people, of course, but I would argue that not stopping the Keystone Pipeline will not directly result in people dying. A lack of healthcare does.

Everything is important. Everything. He DID do a lot for the environment. Including rejecting the KP, for the time being.

I also don't think some donor is the cause of the rejection of the KP. It was because the Republicans forced him to make a decision on it before the full environmental studies could be done. So he had to reject it, which the Republicans knew he would do. They think it's a good political move, is why they did that.

Now maybe he hadn't allowed it before then because of some donors. I don't know. But this donor backed Kerry, it seems, and he was in FULL support of so-called clean coal mining (now that's a misnomer for you). Apparently that wasn't close enough to her house, so she didn't care about that. It wasn't her pet project. The KP will be passing on her end of the country, so there you go. It's not THE environment she cares about, it seems. It's HER environment.

Let's see what the environmental reports say re the KP, before we start electing Santorum or Romney.

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And Susie, just what do you think having a Loki Feb 2012 #1
Susie, tell us your REAL reason. But it's your money. nt nanabugg Feb 2012 #2
And it was her 'good friend' Hillary Clinton who pushed the Keystone project before it was blm Feb 2012 #3
+1 AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #18
Aha! Someone should call her out on that flamingdem Feb 2012 #25
Excellent response! nevergiveup Feb 2012 #4
The bigger picture is if you support Obama taking private money, you have to deal with the process. EFerrari Feb 2012 #44
So she is going to match her 2008 donation to Obama. ieoeja Feb 2012 #5
Ding! Ding! Ding! We all know what this is about..... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #11
She donated $2300 Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #21
That was my guess. She didn't give to him in 2008. She's a Hillary supporter who's mad.... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #54
Your headline contains a factual error: since he never had her financial backing he can not lose it. ieoeja Feb 2012 #6
Nope... she donated $2300 Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #22
concerned about the environment? thug president will eliminate the EPA spanone Feb 2012 #7
As opposed to one whose head quits because he joeybee12 Feb 2012 #37
"Obama losing" How could he lose what he never had? SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #8
She is a Super Pac funder. former9thward Feb 2012 #10
Was she a "Super Pac" funder in '08? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #12
According to the OP she was. former9thward Feb 2012 #15
She was not a Financial Backer for President Obama in 2008 SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #16
She did not directly back him. former9thward Feb 2012 #20
Not in 2008, isn't that right? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #55
I don't know. former9thward Feb 2012 #57
There were PACs in 2008, but not SuperPacs. I think. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #62
Yes she was. She donated $2300 Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #23
Not according to this link SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #29
Your search criteria has the wrong zip code (which you didn't need to enter anyway). Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #31
ah I see..nt SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #34
Her company's in big financial trouble riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #9
Oooohhhh. The plot thickens even more. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #13
She hasn't had anything to do with Esprit for 2 decades. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #26
Would a principled stand on the environment be that bad? jsmirman Feb 2012 #14
It's rather ironic, doncha know? AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #27
She was protesting in October before the pipeline was nixed. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #28
Keystone was promoted by HRC and the State Dept. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #38
Apparently, you did not read the article. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #40
Wrong. He didn't postpone the project, he nixed it. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #41
No, the project hasn't been nixed. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #43
Apparently you didn't read your own block quote. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #46
The admin has allowed them to reapply with a route that skirts the aquifier Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #47
Everything after "that is ..." is pure speculation on your part. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #48
From the State Department... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #50
You aren't offering any new information. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #53
Sounds like she's still pissed off that Hillary didn't make it four years ago. nt Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #17
A "loyal Democrat" who didn't donate last time and encouraged the superdelegates to overturn Arkana Feb 2012 #19
It sounds like she wasn't going to donate to him anyway, so the article is really misleading. n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #60
She never really loved him. Swede Feb 2012 #24
Exactly. (nt) Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #30
What's her DU name? FSogol Feb 2012 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author PragmaticLiberal Feb 2012 #52
She sounds like an old, angry, bitter puma! aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #32
who is "we"? paulk Feb 2012 #51
Actually no. I am an independent. (My political philosophy is similar to Bernie Sanders) aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #63
ok, under the bus with Susie Tompkins Buell paulk Feb 2012 #65
Let's all play "defend the puma because she's bashing Obama"! Arkana Feb 2012 #67
let's all play "trash anyone who doesn't worship at the feet of the godchild Obama" paulk Feb 2012 #69
Yes, cults of personality are pathetic. Arkana Feb 2012 #78
Agreed. I suppose there will always be posters here ready to defend someone aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #70
yeah, 25 million donated to the Democratic Party paulk Feb 2012 #71
I agree. You're doing a great job proving it. nt aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #68
someone needs to push climate change fixes cally Feb 2012 #33
Good for her randr Feb 2012 #35
Ah, and the DU'er's turn on her quickly. joeybee12 Feb 2012 #36
Do you think the American people (not environmentalists) gave a shit about the environment.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #39
I agree with you. And the President is already pushing for green jobs programs throughout nanabugg Feb 2012 #76
WTF? treestar Feb 2012 #74
"no Repuke would be worse"... SidDithers Feb 2012 #80
I see this as a good thing, and would like to see more of it paulk Feb 2012 #42
The environment is one of my main issues. I care deeply about it. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #56
her "pet project" recently has been stopping the keystone pipeline paulk Feb 2012 #59
Yes, the environment is serious. But so is healthcare. It doesn't matter... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #61
the clean coal initiative wasn't about "mining" paulk Feb 2012 #64
I gotta say, the we are running out of time is how I feel jsmirman Feb 2012 #66
Why should she have more influence than anyone else? treestar Feb 2012 #75
I'm stating a fact - money talks in our current system paulk Feb 2012 #77
Interesting that all idealism about change treestar Feb 2012 #81
Hopefully she will donate to congressional candidates if she cannot to Obama. Without a good jwirr Feb 2012 #45
"We don't need her" SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #58
CNN did a report a few months ago on how many loyal Bill Clinton donors are not really Jennicut Feb 2012 #72
A rich person tries to assert control treestar Feb 2012 #73
every faction in the party has its useful idiots Capn Sunshine Feb 2012 #79
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