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111. And our government hasn't with all their secrecy, spying, lying, war mongering, and so on...

Reply to MjolnirTime (Reply #49)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:31 PM

Jul 2013

The millions that have been betrayed are the millions of US citizens by their own government.

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Greenwald says Snowden Documents Could Be 'Worst Nightmare' for US (Patriot NOT) [View all] flamingdem Jul 2013 OP

Sounds like it's Greenwald who is already on his knees. randome Jul 2013 #1

Ah, the timeline flamingdem Jul 2013 #3

Yup gulliver Jul 2013 #13

Sounds like Greenwald may have collaborated before the fact Blackford Jul 2013 #101

Sounds like blackmail even if true treestar Jul 2013 #2

With this it's hard to see how anyone can call him a whistleblower flamingdem Jul 2013 #5

Bully Obama pushing Pootie Poot around! treestar Jul 2013 #8

Can't wait to see what Wikileaks calls Obama today! flamingdem Jul 2013 #11

It does sound like a threat, doesn't it? Whisp Jul 2013 #41

The FBI already knows exactly what files has been accessed by Snowden so there will not be any Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #4

Yes they seem to know that he has lists of agents flamingdem Jul 2013 #6

Link? Last I read they weren't sure exactly. But that was a while ago. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #43

Actually saw Robert Mueller on news report via tv, don't have a link, suggest you can use search Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #68

Have they been tracking him through all his jobs? dkf Jul 2013 #106

Yawn. Just another apology #5 "Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack" PSPS Jul 2013 #7

Yes and most of the gang is here! LOL Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #107

How about a preemptive strike? Have the NSA release all the documents first. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #9

This treason and the defending of it is one of the worst tragedies since 9/11... AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #10

"Tip of the iceberg" (Dem Rep Loretta Sanchez). We'll see who has HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #30

This is about more than NSA surveillance of American citizens. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #40

Oh, puh-leeze. Your appeals to nationalism are falling on deaf ears. Patriotism, as HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #50

Tell it to the founding fathers nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #62

Cries of "nationalism" when someone doesn't want to see harm done to their country. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #91

So, now, Greenwald the Tool makes threats? MineralMan Jul 2013 #12

I just figured out he's trying to capitalize on anti-USA sentiments in Latin America flamingdem Jul 2013 #14

No doubt. Capitalizing on anti-USA sentiments MineralMan Jul 2013 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #15

Well you'd have to blame the journalist flamingdem Jul 2013 #16

And in every negative thread about Greenwald MineralMan Jul 2013 #18

So people who think the government must be transparent Generic Other Jul 2013 #31

+10 Well said. RC Jul 2013 #108

I think you mixed up pro and anti. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #35

is it time for '2 minutes hate' already? markiv Jul 2013 #19

Is it time for referencing fictional novels to make political points already? nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #23

Orwell was a keen observer of political reality markiv Jul 2013 #27

Yes interesting it makes you so comfortable Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #46

I don't know if you won but you can sure run logic circles around anyone! randome Jul 2013 #60

it's called 'circular logic' nt markiv Jul 2013 #66

who said i wasnt comfortable? markiv Jul 2013 #63

At least Orwell makes sense Generic Other Jul 2013 #64

well said markiv Jul 2013 #67

He's a good read. I'll give you that. But policy should be strictly based on data. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #92

What not the Bible? Generic Other Jul 2013 #109

What about morals? RC Jul 2013 #110

"I have here in my hand a list of 205 . . ." ucrdem Jul 2013 #20

Is this like the Giant Doomsday Folder of Encrypted Doom to destroy the BOA NoPasaran Jul 2013 #21

And that's just SO helpful to the American people, right, Glenn, you fucking asshole? DevonRex Jul 2013 #22

Greenwald is talking about the U.S. government killing Snowden Enrique Jul 2013 #24

If it's true they have agent names, Snowden's life isn't worth more flamingdem Jul 2013 #32

He's talking about damaging our Nation for a personal vendetta. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #36

no, he's saying if they KILL HIM Enrique Jul 2013 #45

If he has what some fear, that should be an option on the table. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #47

He obviously has a vendetta. He betrayed a nation of millions. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #49

And our government hasn't with all their secrecy, spying, lying, war mongering, and so on... RC Jul 2013 #111

He's talking about embarrassing politicians, and costing the national security state a lot of money. Marr Jul 2013 #56

That doesn't bring the US govt. "to it's knees", which btw is a pretty Sado-Masochistic flamingdem Jul 2013 #61

Wait-- you're complaining that his words don't conform well to your framing? Marr Jul 2013 #69

He's talking about bringing the U.S. to its knees. Do you think there aren't a LOT of DevonRex Jul 2013 #48

Greenwald said that Snowden was such a great hacker, could protect the info from Russians etc flamingdem Jul 2013 #70

It makes Greenwald a target and Greenwald's associates, too. DevonRex Jul 2013 #76

It's curious. What does he hope to achieve by putting crosshairs flamingdem Jul 2013 #77

snowden already made it clear that he had info... allin99 Jul 2013 #87

They could both be lying, too. randome Jul 2013 #94

whether it is or is not a lie doesn't change the possible consequences. allin99 Jul 2013 #95

The definition of insanity continues................ wandy Jul 2013 #25

These threads would be funny if they weren't so sad. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #26

I have been getting flamed here for saying Snowden is not a patriot liberal N proud Jul 2013 #28

Fat chance. eom Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #113

Lol! BenzoDia Jul 2013 #29

So, Snowdens holding out on us. bunnies Jul 2013 #33

That is Greenwald and Guardian Media Group's decision. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #42

Now that the traitors are cornered, the charade is falling. And the threats emerge. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #34

Once Snowden is back in the motherland flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Has Greenwald been charged with a crime? grasswire Jul 2013 #51

Snowden has confessed to felonies. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #55

That's right. I forgot he confessed in Hong Kong flamingdem Jul 2013 #59

once again: Has Greenwald been charged with any crimes? grasswire Jul 2013 #73

The journalist was associated with the spy before he stole the secrets. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #89

This will make Glenn 'ca-ching' Greenwald a lot richer. Whisp Jul 2013 #38

He learned his Glen Beck lessons well flamingdem Jul 2013 #39

"any other person" is such an absurd claim. bunnies Jul 2013 #44

Which is why the US downed the plane of a head of state MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #52

And you trust Greenwald to make decisions on that? flamingdem Jul 2013 #53

I don't have a choice in the matter MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #54

"downed"? The Soviets "downed" Korean Airlines Flight 007 FarCenter Jul 2013 #96

Hmmm... can we agree that the White House *forced* down the plane MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #102

And the USS Vincennes "downed" Iran Air flight 655 Fumesucker Jul 2013 #114

Is he daring them to go after him? cuz with a statment like that, they certainly could... allin99 Jul 2013 #57

fundraising nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #58

i've seen their fundraising, and that's not it. allin99 Jul 2013 #82

This is getting just plain sick Politicalboi Jul 2013 #65

Everytime He Opens His Mouth = More Danger & Fear otohara Jul 2013 #72

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #71

Sooooo can the fan club tell us what this whole thing is about again? BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #74

And people still worship GG and Snowden? flamingdem Jul 2013 #75

The 4th was the the bait and they swallowed it hook, line and sinker. The switch did DevonRex Jul 2013 #79

Snowden is kissing Putin's ass flamingdem Jul 2013 #80

Putin's a tough one. Old school KGB. He does nothing out of kindness. DevonRex Jul 2013 #83

With some unsmiling guards outside his door flamingdem Jul 2013 #85

Haha! Hope he likes borscht. nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #90

i'd glad ES did what he did, so if that qualifies me for fan club i'll give you my opinion... allin99 Jul 2013 #84

Cheers BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #88

i think he's nothing more than an asshole self-serving turd... allin99 Jul 2013 #93

I just never got the foreign angle BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #98

I agree. The father mentioned that Wikileaks just dumps everything flamingdem Jul 2013 #99

the only reason i didn't get it is because... allin99 Jul 2013 #104

Snowden needs to release the whole Aerows Jul 2013 #78

Greenwald would be happy to see Snowden dead; then he gets the decryption keys to the archive FarCenter Jul 2013 #81

I'm sure you understand that Greenwald is borderline flamingdem Jul 2013 #86

Do you have any proof Greenwald is borderline psycho? neverforget Jul 2013 #105

He doesn't have any proof at all. RC Jul 2013 #112

I will make my first post criticizing the Obama administration AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #97

And some would name this guy a hero. Blackford Jul 2013 #100

Russia won't extradite if the country has the death penalty flamingdem Jul 2013 #103