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Octafish

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27. Not from what I've read. Is there an audio or video tape I can listen to?

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:14 PM

Jul 2013

I'd like to hear what Greenwald actually said. I'd also like to hear what the interviewers asked.

Going from what's been reported, it's clear that Greenwald's words were mistranslated and taken out of context to make his statement into a "threat" against the United States.

About the Reuters article

The latest effort to distract attention from the NSA revelations is more absurd than most

by Glenn Greenwald
The Guardian, July 13, 2013

EXCERPT...

My point in this interview was clear, one I've repeated over and over: had he wanted to harm the US government, he easily could have, but hasn't, as evidenced by the fact that - as I said - he has all sorts of documents that could inflict serious harm to the US government's programs. That demonstrates how irrational is the claim that his intent is to harm the US. His intent is to shine a light on these programs so they can be democratically debated. That's why none of the disclosures we've published can be remotely described as harming US national security: all they've harmed are the reputation and credibility of US officials who did these things and then lied about them.

SOURCE: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/13/reuters-article-dead-man-s-switch

Going by what got printed and what was reported are two different things.

BTW: Don't worry, I speak Spanish so I'll try and be mindful of idioms and such.

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What Greenwald said vs Reuters summary of what he said: [View all] Luminous Animal Jul 2013 OP

Whoa, wordy attempt to save his career flamingdem Jul 2013 #1

I posted the original interview. You know the original interview that Reuters cherry picked. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #4

An entire paragraph isn't "cherrypicking". KittyWampus Jul 2013 #10

Reuters did not post the entire paragraphs. They cherry picked two sentences Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #17

They did not use ellipses. They did not change the meaning. No context makes Greewald sound rational KittyWampus Jul 2013 #20

So if you post more words� people may not read THIS part KittyWampus Jul 2013 #2

GG couldn't resist sharing his fantasy about the USA flamingdem Jul 2013 #5

-snicker- KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12

. flamingdem Jul 2013 #14

But that's not his goal changes the whole thing, doesn't it? nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #7

More words provide context. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #8

LOL! There is no context that makes the paragraph reasonable. It's not like they used ellipses. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #13

What are you talking about... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #22

Thanks. allin99 Jul 2013 #3

So we can add: not particularly press savvy BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #6

Snowden himself has admitted to having an insurance file. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #15

The point is Greenwald drools over himself BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #21

... AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #9

Oh mah lawd! flamingdem Jul 2013 #16

Sheldon, is that you? Octafish Jul 2013 #19

It's clever if one is a bigot. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #36

Greenwald sounds like a shyster. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #11

Gee. So Reuters would, ah, attempt to alter what Greenwald said? Octafish Jul 2013 #18

they didn't alter anything. It's his own words. Unedited. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #23

Not from what I've read. Is there an audio or video tape I can listen to? Octafish Jul 2013 #27

Link to the article in the original Spansh Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #29

Glenn Greenwald: "Snowden has information to cause more damage." Octafish Jul 2013 #38

Thank you for doing this. Thanks so much. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #40

You are welcome. Octafish Jul 2013 #41

+++ marions ghost Jul 2013 #59

Los Three Amigos Octafish Jul 2013 #65

It's IN THE OPENING POST. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #34

Read my translation. Octafish Jul 2013 #39

Crazy, huh? And you are welcome. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #24

It is crazy. It's also interesting to see how angry so many DUers have become these days. Octafish Jul 2013 #28

OT, but who's the illustrator for that? I'm sure I saw them in the New Yorker MisterP Jul 2013 #37

Abner Dean Octafish Jul 2013 #42

thanks for whacking that mole carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #25

Greenwald's flaming out. All the King's Horses and All the King's Men can't fix this. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #26

Imagine the outrage at Reuters if BUSH was still in the White House. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #30

Thank you for more exposure of the smear machine at work. woo me with science Jul 2013 #31

Greenwald is "smearing" himself. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #33

In a democracy, the people rely on investigative journalists woo me with science Jul 2013 #35

people who commit espionage come pre-smeared arely staircase Jul 2013 #44

Propaganda talking point with no evidence whatsoever woo me with science Jul 2013 #45

he gave the chinese the IP addresses of us hack targets and specific information as to which arely staircase Jul 2013 #48

Your perseverence is noted woo me with science Jul 2013 #49

Hopefully he will be brought to justice soon. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #50

He deserves a medal for exposing the trashing of the Constitution by our own government. woo me with science Jul 2013 #57

whatever the jury decides nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #58

That's not the point. No matter what revenge our government may exact on Snowden, woo me with science Jul 2013 #61

I think he should exercise his 6th amendment rights soon. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #62

He didn't reveal how only the fact that we hacked CIVILIAN computer systems... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #51

civilian? lol he can explain that to the jury arely staircase Jul 2013 #52

Thank you. I was starting to translate this article when I got interrupted by some Cleita Jul 2013 #32

Here is what I don't get. Doesn't such a pronouncement make Mr. Snowden less safe? arely staircase Jul 2013 #43

Thanks for taking time. It's been unbelievable watching the smear machine at work n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #46

"Smear machine"? ProSense Jul 2013 #47

You wish. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #55

Still sounds like a threat to me. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #53

Of course it is a threat. It's conditional... kill me and I will harm you. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #54

So...what was the problem with the Reuters article then? BenzoDia Jul 2013 #56

The Reuters article did not make it clear that the threat was conditional. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #63

No, it is "kill me and I will harm the US." So anyone wanting to harm the US just has to kill him arely staircase Jul 2013 #60

As already revealed, he has info on other countries complicity with surveillance... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #64