General Discussion

Journeyman

(15,458 posts)

20. Not necessarily. . .

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:12 PM

Jul 2013

Albert Speer was convicted of War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity (as Armaments Minister, German war production went up the last three years of the war, despite the intensive Allied bombings), yet Speer was sentenced to only 20 years in Spandau.

Contrast this with the death sentence for Julius Streicher, who had nothing to do with the military and did not take an active part in the Holocaust.

As Bradley Smith concluded in Reaching Judgment at Nuremburg, the punishment meted out by the Tribunal was influenced in part by their perceptions of the class and social standing of the accused. The refined, erudite Speer was treated quite differently than the grotesque, benighted publisher of Der Sturmer.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

52 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

If Obama is a war criminal, would you support a Republican DOJ charging him? [View all] Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 OP

... Scurrilous Jul 2013 #1

that's not something that would happen, whatever the circumstances Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #2

If Bush wasn't charged, no way Obama should be charged. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #3

He should be tried under the regulations of the applicable laws. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #4

Execution or life in prison. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #5

Then if he is convicted he should receive one of those sentences. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #6

That's all I wanted to know... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #8

Well, I don't support execution. So I guess that would leave a lesser punishment. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #10

It doesn't matter what you support... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #12

Oh My Fucking God Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #13

I don't support execution. So I'm not talking about it. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #14

Whether or not you support it is irrelevant. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #17

Yeah actually no I'm not. I do not find execution to be an acceptable option. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #22

So, do you then not support finding someone guilty if the option is the death penalty? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #26

Are you trying to play games with me? Either someone is guilty of a crime or they are not. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #40

And that's the point... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #43

You have demonstrated a clear chain of unsound logic. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #49

Not necessarily. . . Journeyman Jul 2013 #20

Would you? burnodo Jul 2013 #7

Me? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #18

So it's all good then burnodo Jul 2013 #21

I never said that... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #24

Ok, fine burnodo Jul 2013 #31

It's been that way since America's founding... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #36

Will anyone be the first? burnodo Jul 2013 #39

regarding cornel west's comments arely staircase Jul 2013 #9

President Obama disidoro01 Jul 2013 #11

That's not how the legal system works. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #15

Are we not all equal before the law? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #16

Theoretically, but not in practice... polichick Jul 2013 #29

Would you? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #19

Na'. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #23

Why not? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #25

Why? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #27

Why have war crime laws then? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #28

Why pick now to start charging presidents? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #30

I would have supported prosecution of several of those presidents n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #34

Several - but not all? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #37

If it can proved they all committed crimes against humanity whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #38

What's so disturbing about it? Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #41

I know where you're trying to go with this little speed trap whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #45

Only if they also charge all of their own Warpy Jul 2013 #32

Cornel West is an over-the-top showboater. His pronouncement about this is crap. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #33

Let's go after the criminals who started the war first. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #35

If Obama is a train, would you support Mussolini making him run on time? NoPasaran Jul 2013 #42

^^ bobduca Jul 2013 #46

I've got everything I wanted from this thread... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #44

No, you have not. Enjoy my proof and next time consider your games a little better. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #50

This is the logical extension of supporting Ed Snowden wholeheartedly & without reservations. baldguy Jul 2013 #47

That's a big if. LWolf Jul 2013 #48

Only after Bush and crew SoutherDem Jul 2013 #51

I support all war criminals being charged. 99Forever Jul 2013 #52