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I will see that, and raise you DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #1
The law used in the defense was passed in 1974, and signed into law by a Democrat (Reubin Askew). nt X_Digger Jul 2013 #2
don't be facts to the discussion... Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #5
So busy being a smart ass that you ignore the larger, more important point. Never mind. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #14
I'm working damned hard to turn TX blue, but I don't use incorrect "facts" to make my case. X_Digger Jul 2013 #17
Still don't know what you're talking about. Can you explain? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #29
No law written since 2010 was invoked in this case. X_Digger Jul 2013 #35
The gun laws in Florida protected Zimmerman from being culpable. Those laws were strengthen when we Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #48
*headdesk* Which law? The one written in 1974?!? Signed by a (D) gov? X_Digger Jul 2013 #55
A dichotomy that might be implicated in the issue delrem Jul 2013 #58
2014 is so important sad-cafe Jul 2013 #3
Then our Democratic leaders should stop driving voters away MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #4
*shhhh...* You're interrupting another fact-free post Hydra Jul 2013 #10
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? HELL, NO!!" xocet Jul 2013 #11
What was fact-free about my OP? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #15
The entire premise Hydra Jul 2013 #62
I'm referring to Democrats running at the state and local levels. You're going to punish them, too? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #16
I don't want to punish anyone MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #23
O.K., and I do, too. But that happens at the grassroots (read: local) level, no? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #34
I feel kinda like you're blaming the victim MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #43
So find a progressive Democrat that you like at the local level and vote for that Democrat. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #46
Kennedy, Warren, and Markey are my elected representatives MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #49
Good, then. We're in agreement. Did we have to go through all of that just to come to the same Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #52
are you friggin' kidding treestar Jul 2013 #32
Dems Have Always Not Voted In Midterms otohara Jul 2013 #56
It's nader's fault The Straight Story Jul 2013 #6
It's not Nader's fault. This is serious! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #26
No, Stand Your Ground was not used in Zimmerman's defense BainsBane Jul 2013 #7
You don't read well. I clearly state that SYG was not used in this case. Please reread the post Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #18
What gun law since 2010 can you link this to? BainsBane Jul 2013 #20
Surely you know and understand that ALEC, with the NRA, drafted these extreme gun laws at the Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #24
Of course BainsBane Jul 2013 #33
I wasn't attacking anyone! I was actually responding to those attacking me and being rude, just Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #36
asking you for evidence is not being rude BainsBane Jul 2013 #38
Evidence for what? Your post is obtuse. I don't know what you're talking about! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #44
K/R CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #8
And then they get angry when we have the gutting of voting rights, reproductive rights laws, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #22
no what I get angry about is when democrats push Race to the Top and my son's liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #42
So what does that mean? Does that mean that you won't vote for Democrats at the local/state level Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #45
I will vote for liberals who fight the control the 1% has over this country. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #53
Actually, we are in agreement. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #54
yeah, okay. Whatever. Your OP and post #22 really make that clear. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #57
.. pipoman Jul 2013 #9
BULLSHIT HiPointDem Jul 2013 #12
What's bullshit about anything I wrote? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #19
ride your hobbyhorse some other night HiPointDem Jul 2013 #28
Don't know what a hobbyhorse is. And I don't know what you're talking about. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #37
It's the politicians' fault. I will not vote for democrats who support corporations, who liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #13
I'm not asking you too. Hence, the *GOOD* Democrats emphasis in my OP. I support progressive Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #21
if I find a *good* democrat I'll vote for them. There's not many around. Too many have been liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #31
Please point out where I disagree with you? It comes from the bottom up. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #39
I thought it was because a Jury made a decision snooper2 Jul 2013 #25
Don't be silly. People are upset about the verdict. These gun laws are ridiculous! We need more Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #41
and in 72 hours snooper2 Jul 2013 #51
Amen treestar Jul 2013 #27
Florida went "shall issue" in 1987 aikoaiko Jul 2013 #30
O.K., but the larger point of my post shouldn't be up for dispute, no? Don't we want MORE Democrats Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #40
Yes, of course, we want more Ds in the state roll calls aikoaiko Jul 2013 #47
I support gun rights. This is not about responsible gun ownership. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #50
Votr Iliyah Jul 2013 #59
I get the idea things are improving... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #60
Don't think 2010 factored in. The NRA is somewhat responsible for the murder of many Americans. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #61
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