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29. This was a straight forward self defense case not a stand your ground case. ...

Reply to madinmaryland (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 06:34 AM

Jul 2013

It's hard to retreat when you are on your back with your opponent on top of you.

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Why Zimmerman was aquitted [View all] davidn3600 Jul 2013 OP

The fact that he followed Trayvon Martin should have been enough to assume he was the attacker... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #1

If you ignored the law, then yes Riftaxe Jul 2013 #25

Zimmerman is not a credible witness, being a liar and a man with a history of violence... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #49

Why was the girl friend illiterate? Because English was not her primary language? LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #86

Convictions are not based on assumptions. rug Jul 2013 #33

Yes they are, all the effing time... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #50

No they're not, not by a longshot. rug Jul 2013 #51

All I know is that usually when you shoot and kill someone Rex Jul 2013 #2

+1. That it wasn't in this case until the public forced the issue is Clue 1. That the police HiPointDem Jul 2013 #13

+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #81

Probably why the blacks in their neighborhood don't trust the police. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #87

Yeah we have leaped over that fact underpants Jul 2013 #43

Not when you protect your home - in all states question everything Jul 2013 #94

But this wasn't about protecting a home now was it? Rex Jul 2013 #100

Well, remember, this is DU... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #103

The "Gun Control & RKBA" forum has not been axed. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #107

No, it's slender-brush insulting of some DU'ers with a specific set of beliefs Scootaloo Jul 2013 #111

Of course not. This is why Florida and other states enacted the law question everything Jul 2013 #105

And usually the police will do a criminal investigation Rex Jul 2013 #108

All of your explanations are moot... madinmaryland Jul 2013 #3

As another poster pointed out... beevul Jul 2013 #8

the NRA influences more than just repukes Skittles Jul 2013 #14

And that goes for laws passed in 1974? N/T beevul Jul 2013 #16

the NRA goes back over a century Skittles Jul 2013 #18

Are you asserting that the nra is responsible for this law passed in 1974 by a Democrat? beevul Jul 2013 #20

the NRA has SICKENED America for DECADES Skittles Jul 2013 #21

So no proof then. Ok. N/T beevul Jul 2013 #22

I don't know of any "gun humpers" rl6214 Jul 2013 #72

This term 'Gun Humpers' Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #79

That is bullshit. It was passed in 2005. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #89

To which law do you refer? beevul Jul 2013 #90

SYG LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #92

Alec and the NRA helped pass the law in fla. 4 more years Jul 2013 #106

I don't know why you needed to tell me that. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #110

The subject of this thread is why zimmerman was aquitted. beevul Jul 2013 #112

This was a straight forward self defense case not a stand your ground case. ... spin Jul 2013 #29

Even harder to try to retreat when you are a bigot with a gun. Hoyt Jul 2013 #38

Prove he was a bigot rl6214 Jul 2013 #73

Yep, doesn't take much to figure it out if you are open to it. Most gun nuts aren't, especially the Hoyt Jul 2013 #76

Who's creeping out of the gungeon? rl6214 Jul 2013 #77

Badge of distinction. And I was booted for saying "most gun cultists are bigots." Hoyt Jul 2013 #78

Again, a statement you have no proof of but you love throwing it out there. rl6214 Jul 2013 #80

Hell, you guys make statements of all the threats you face and why you carry guns or keep a cache at Hoyt Jul 2013 #84

Yes, my guns are loaded, they are useless if they aren't rl6214 Jul 2013 #88

No. You were booted for... beevul Jul 2013 #113

"... is the fear someone is going to kill you enough to justify it?" Jenoch Jul 2013 #4

go away HiPointDem Jul 2013 #15

so Trayvon should have killed Zimmerman Skittles Jul 2013 #23

The law probably only applies to white people. B Calm Jul 2013 #30

Exactly. Hoyt Jul 2013 #39

Can you prove he was in fear for his life? rl6214 Jul 2013 #74

I believe the one being stalked by a gun-toting vigilante was the one in fear for his life Skittles Jul 2013 #93

He was not being stalked rl6214 Jul 2013 #97

done here Skittles Jul 2013 #98

No, he had privately bought lawyers Nevernose Jul 2013 #5

A poor person should never have to face the resources of the state with both hands tied behind TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #64

The woman in your scenario... Daalalou Jul 2013 #6

And like I said, it's very possible Zimmerman was the attacker davidn3600 Jul 2013 #10

there's no particular evidence that trayvon attacked zimmy except the liar & stalker's say-so. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #17

You are believing the report that was proven wrong. rl6214 Jul 2013 #75

believing my own ears HiPointDem Jul 2013 #82

Yup, as opposed to attorneys on both sides and the FBI rl6214 Jul 2013 #83

yup. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #85

you're being stalked by a gun-toting CREEP for no reason Skittles Jul 2013 #19

Yeah, you're right...you have a point. I wont argue that. davidn3600 Jul 2013 #27

The issue was jmg257 Jul 2013 #44

NO EVIDENCE that Trayvon attacked Z - but evidence to the contrary. MH1 Jul 2013 #46

??? IL Lib Jul 2013 #67

I'm done. I'm tired of hearing why the law states why Zimmerman had to go free. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #7

oh and the NRA has nothing to do with it either!!! Skittles Jul 2013 #24

Most of them are gun nuts who can see themselves in Zimmerman's position, having shot an unarmed Hoyt Jul 2013 #40

The funny thing is, I don't understand how any normal, reasonable, decent person MH1 Jul 2013 #47

I used to believe that. While some are trolls, there are still some bigot gun nuts in Democratic Hoyt Jul 2013 #56

Not just "see" themselves in Zimbo's place, bvar22 Jul 2013 #58

+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #57

I have always wondered... defacto7 Jul 2013 #9

"Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat." rug Jul 2013 #36

Thanks for the reply Rug, defacto7 Jul 2013 #61

There is no reason to think prosecutors have to high a hill to climb TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #65

I think you are reading a lot into my statement that wasn't there. defacto7 Jul 2013 #66

Just because you don't take something to its logical conclusion doesn't mean the conclusion TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #70

Zimmerman is a gutless coward whose story would have been TORN TO SHREDS Skittles Jul 2013 #11

which only proves KT2000 Jul 2013 #12

Zimmerman made the 911 call. TM99 Jul 2013 #26

So why was Trevor Dooley convicted of manslaughter exboyfil Jul 2013 #28

you got it backwards... TM was being followed and potentially being attacked.. DCBob Jul 2013 #31

Zimmerman Zupporters READ THIS Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #32

Minor irrelevant point tabasco Jul 2013 #45

And I thought the brownshirts were the precursor to the SS Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #60

In your scenario Dorian Gray Jul 2013 #34

exactly.. the woman had every right to blow the guys head off. DCBob Jul 2013 #37

Agree 100% Dorian Gray Jul 2013 #114

So there can be no prosecution if the person who started the fight kills the other guy? RBInMaine Jul 2013 #35

"no duty to flee" HockeyMom Jul 2013 #41

Gunshine State underpants Jul 2013 #42

Without going into detail and arguing about all this ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #48

Seriously! Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #109

The woman could be shot under stand your ground. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2013 #52

Zimmerman was acquitted because Jawja Jul 2013 #53

^^this^^ rucky Jul 2013 #55

I think you should know how to spell acquitted malaise Jul 2013 #54

Glaring problems with your analogy.... PA Democrat Jul 2013 #59

+1 n/t IL Lib Jul 2013 #69

I have seen several posts... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #62

I couldn't disagree more Bragi Jul 2013 #63

Because children of color mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #68

So "legally," how does Martin NOT get killed on the night in question? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #71

Call 911, NOT his girl-friend, for starters. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #91

I get it, but of course if you're being followed by a crazy man Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #95

He didn't call her, he was already on the phone with her. Nine Jul 2013 #96

I responded to the question of what could he do? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #101

I stand by my post. (nt) Nine Jul 2013 #102

So instead of discussing rationally, you choose to insult. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #104

Thank you for a well reasoned level headed analysis question everything Jul 2013 #99