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In reply to the discussion: Zimmerman is a contemptible person, but the jury got it right. [View all]Sparkly
(24,948 posts)"A person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself."
"Reasonably believes." His wounds, as testified, were minimal -- more in line with falling than having his head "bashed." Throughout, four little words -- "I have a gun" -- would have be enough. He had no reason to think Trayvon Martin had a gun, was a black belt in some martial art, or anything else. He had no reason to think he was about to die or have great bodily harm done -- not when he could simply SAY, "I have a gun."
"In deciding whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you must judge him by the circumstances by which he was surrounded at the time the force was used. The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real."
So what were these appearances? What was the big danger? Would a "reasonably cautious and prudent person" have confronted Trayvon and then decided his/her life was in danger? Why? The closest they come to that is that Martin was losing a fight. Why would the person holding a loaded gun believe his life was in danger??
'If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity" (is pursuing somebody with a loaded gun lawful? maybe...)
"and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be," (Did he have a right to harass Trayvon Martin? maybe..)
"he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."
"Meet force with force" suggests he was jumped in an alley or something. Who started the "force?" Force began with him going after this boy, for no reason at all.
Again: Why would the person holding a loaded gun believe his life was in danger?? This passes the test of "reasonable?"