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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Knowledge Is Power
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jul 2013

In matters of war and commerce, one piece of information can be all the difference between making a killing and getting fleeced.

Here's a blast from the future readers may want to add to Gen. Clapper's bookshelf:



ECHELON Today: The Evolution of an NSA Black Program

Tom Burghardt
FRIDAY, JULY 12, 2013

EXCERPT...

By 1946, the permanent war economy which later came to be known as the Military-Industrial Complex, a semi-command economy directed by corporate executives, based on military, but also on emerging high-tech industries bolstered by taxpayer-based government investments, was already firmly entrenched and formed the political-economic base on which the so-called "American Century" was constructed.

While resource extraction and export market domination remained the primary goal of successive US administrations (best summarized by the slogan, "the business of government is business&quot , advances in technology in general and telecommunications in particular, meant that the system's overlords required an intelligence apparatus that was always "on" as it "captured" the flood of electronic signals coursing across the planet.

The secret British and US agencies responsible for cracking German, Japanese and Russian codes during the war found themselves in a quandary. Should they declare victory and go home or train their sights on the new (old) adversary--their former ally, the Soviet Union--but also on home grown and indigenous communist and socialist movements more generally?

In opting for the latter, the UK-US wartime partnership evolved into a broad agreement to share signals and communications intelligence (SIGINT and COMINT), a set-up which persists today.

In 1946, Britain and the United States signed the United Kingdom-United States of America Agreement (UKUSA), a multilateral treaty to share signals intelligence amongst the two nations and Britain's Commonwealth partners, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Known as the "Five Eyes" agreement, the treaty was such a closely-guarded secret that Australia's Prime Minister was kept in the dark until 1973!

SNIP...

Amid serious charges that "Five Eyes" were illegally seizing industrial and trade secrets from "3rd party" European partners such as France and Germany, detailed in the European Parliament's 2001 ECHELON report, it should be clear by now that since its launch in 1968 when satellite communications became a practical reality, ECHELON has evolved into a global surveillance complex under US control.

CONTINUED...

http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.ca/2013/07/echelon-today-evolution-of-nsa-black.html



Information. It's what Brazillionaires crave.

Speaking of which...that term you used, "Sticks to my craw." I heard it used the other night watching a cowboy movie, "Open Range." Robert Duvall's character, the Old Cowboy, says it to his right hand man, played by Kevin Costner. I think the movie's five stars. While it's not today's standard Hollywood shoot-em-up, the film tells an excellent story. If it's a metaphor, the townsfolk mean We the People are gonna win.

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It is the 3 parties (TELECOMS) that 'collect' and own the meta-data Tx4obama Jul 2013 #1
He implies that there is much more than metadata in the book hootinholler Jul 2013 #3
Hello? .. it wouldn't be a REAL "library" by definition, unless 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #2
Of course they can hootinholler Jul 2013 #14
Can i offer what might be a naive opinion... allin99 Jul 2013 #4
Let's take this "library" metaphor one step further............ wandy Jul 2013 #5
You've got hold of the wrong end of the stick intaglio Jul 2013 #6
I don't think I do hootinholler Jul 2013 #7
Go to a large reference library intaglio Jul 2013 #8
But the book exists hootinholler Jul 2013 #9
OK, play dumb intaglio Jul 2013 #11
Who are the Librarians? Octafish Jul 2013 #10
If I were an Evil Brazillionaire Overlord... hootinholler Jul 2013 #12
Knowledge Is Power Octafish Jul 2013 #17
A most excellent movie with a powerful lesson in moral behavior hootinholler Jul 2013 #25
What_did_Tice_say_about_Cheney_tasking_the_Obama_and_political_intercepts? leveymg Jul 2013 #26
I'm not too sure about the brazilianaire part hootinholler Jul 2013 #28
"I am your father" leveymg Jul 2013 #32
:D More like Rove's Father hootinholler Jul 2013 #33
Am I supposed to trust this guy, Clapper, more than Edward Snowden? kentuck Jul 2013 #13
There really needs to be a robust investigation. hootinholler Jul 2013 #15
I know this isn't very sexy hootinholler Jul 2013 #16
that confusing exchange means nothing. DCBob Jul 2013 #34
Read the entire interview hootinholler Jul 2013 #35
well if snowden has the motherload as he has claimed then why isnt it in any of the documents? DCBob Jul 2013 #36
How would I know that? hootinholler Jul 2013 #37
What he's implying is that every American now has an accessible "Permanent Record" of GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #18
Clapper *clarified* his lie for the 1% and Snowden persists in his truth for the 99% Catherina Jul 2013 #19
Information is what Democracy and Spies crave. Octafish Jul 2013 #20
This thread is chock full of reading material. Quantess Jul 2013 #21
Interesting how quickly he switched from "belongs to" suffragette Jul 2013 #22
Yes he almost slipped the truth out. n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #23
Thanks for this important thread suffragette Jul 2013 #24
YEP! Recommend! KoKo Jul 2013 #27
omg, were those statement from clapper supposed to make us feel *better*? ay yi yi n/t allin99 Jul 2013 #29
Thanks, Hoot! You bring up an interesting point about what Clapper said.. KoKo Jul 2013 #30
Look at post 16 hootinholler Jul 2013 #31
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