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ewagner

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113. Here's the manual for Neighborhood watch "officials"

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:40 PM

Jul 2013

it doesn't say:

1. carry a weapon
2. Confront suspicious persons

www.keysso.net/commrelations/ccw/neighborhood_watch_manual.pdf

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BREAKING per Huffington......Justice Department To Review Zimmerman Case [View all] rsmith6621 Jul 2013 OP

Good GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #1

Ugh, this is going to nose dive. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #2

How do think it will "nose dive"? GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #6

So should we just throw the concept of double jeporady out the window, to apease people? Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #7

Do you remember the Rodney King case? GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #8

Zimmerman was not in a position of authority Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #12

he can't be forced to testify ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #16

Read it elsewhere. Must have been for the civil case. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #20

perhaps there you are right... ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #21

I'm not very civil either. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #22

thanks for catching that... ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #45

I figured out the rules I read about would cover a civil case filed by the family. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #49

So the 5th amendment is meaningless in the eyes of the feds? davidn3600 Jul 2013 #18

He would be tried for violation of Trayvon's civil rights. Before he was tried for murder. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #40

I know that...but this isn't what the founding fathers intended davidn3600 Jul 2013 #44

He could have been had the DOJ chosen to do so. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #48

5th amendment davidn3600 Jul 2013 #54

The offense charged would be different: violation of civil rights NOT murder. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #59

Seeing as how they couldn't prove murder when OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #67

Education is a wonderful thing. lumpy Jul 2013 #97

It is double Jeopardy donnasgirl Jul 2013 #78

You think John2 Jul 2013 #138

Think about it donnasgirl Jul 2013 #148

Come on...give me a break....it's double jeopardy davidn3600 Jul 2013 #86

I don't John2 Jul 2013 #139

The prosecution team should be who goes on trial then... Blanks Jul 2013 #149

true PaulKersey Jul 2013 #156

I was sent John2 Jul 2013 #136

Read more on double jeopardy treestar Jul 2013 #66

the founding daddies were fucked up racists. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #121

Thanks. A voice of reason in a jumble of opinions. lumpy Jul 2013 #91

BS lumpy Jul 2013 #95

That's in a civil case Morganfleeman Jul 2013 #19

Not true. You are confusing this with a civil case. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #71

Watch the DOJ press Confrence from a year ago ceonupe Jul 2013 #80

Look further on this topic.You'll see I did a correction. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author premium Jul 2013 #126

Is Neighborhood Watch not "position of authority"? alp227 Jul 2013 #32

The persons to whom deprivation of rights under color of law applies meow2u3 Jul 2013 #79

Trayvon was also a minor....just turned 17 years old. FarPoint Jul 2013 #85

Here's the manual for Neighborhood watch "officials" ewagner Jul 2013 #113

People just John2 Jul 2013 #137

Exactly! ;-) ReRe Jul 2013 #153

Zimmerman was trained by the Sanford Police. nt boston bean Jul 2013 #47

He thought he was in a position of authority... marions ghost Jul 2013 #133

Exactly. ReRe Jul 2013 #152

The abuse of state authority in RK. Ugh. So short sighted. Nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #14

Not double jeopardy MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #28

Thanks. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #30

This isn't double jeopardy. Chan790 Jul 2013 #31

Correct! another_liberal Jul 2013 #112

Double jeopardy means . . . Brigid Jul 2013 #33

It's only double jeporady if he is charged with the same crime. He won't be. The charge jtuck004 Jul 2013 #50

That does not apply to different charges treestar Jul 2013 #65

It isn't double jeopardy because the Justice Department would bring different charges than JDPriestly Jul 2013 #124

A civil rights charge is a different crime AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #125

double jeopardy doesn't apply here marym625 Jul 2013 #144

Plus, JohnnyBoots Jul 2013 #155

"If the DOJ sat back and did nothing, they would be hounded until they did." goldent Jul 2013 #57

They did not sit back. They were looking into the civil rights case and then.. Little Star Jul 2013 #120

George Zimmerman committed murder. He still has to pay for what he did. Mr. David Jul 2013 #9

Yeah... if we don't like christx30 Jul 2013 #35

It's a miscarriage of justice. Mr. David Jul 2013 #38

And a lot of people thought the same thing when OJ christx30 Jul 2013 #53

OJ also had a civil case against him N/t FreeState Jul 2013 #58

But he was never christx30 Jul 2013 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author ceonupe Jul 2013 #87

The jury didn't have access to information that the trial observers had such as people on this lumpy Jul 2013 #101

I don't agree John2 Jul 2013 #140

I'm not just talking about the christx30 Jul 2013 #146

He's a pretty recognizable figure. Wherever he goes, he will face public loathing and scorn for Flatulo Jul 2013 #61

and everywhere he goes, signs saying "Justice for Trayvon" Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #128

He'll never face a needle for murdering Trayvon. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #43

True. The type of offense he would be tried for if the feds step in doesn't carry the death totodeinhere Jul 2013 #73

Isn't it ironic how many posters think they know how the legal system works. I hope the DOJ lumpy Jul 2013 #89

Hell...I'm fine with giving Zimmy endless nocturnal harassment. FarPoint Jul 2013 #90

They need to at least make an assessment marshall Jul 2013 #60

The DOJ stepped away from the case when Florida decided to do something about it and took over. lumpy Jul 2013 #105

Do you have a link to where the FBI determined that because.... Little Star Jul 2013 #122

Here's Christian Science Monitor marshall Jul 2013 #142

There are state laws and there are federal laws... George II Jul 2013 #74

I agree with you... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2013 #130

Just another example mick063 Jul 2013 #3

There is good reason for it. BainsBane Jul 2013 #24

Pleased to hear this. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #4

kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #5

Tray on Martin's family can also file a civil suit. kaiden Jul 2013 #11

you may need to check the "v" on your keyboard Skittles Jul 2013 #15

The problem is that Zimmerman may be immune due to self-defense, alp227 Jul 2013 #34

He can ask a court for a hearing. But he will have to testify and win. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #37

What GZ did was not self-defense. Not SYG. Mr. David Jul 2013 #39

I agree. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #42

Only under state laws. The Feds are not bound by state statute. 1monster Jul 2013 #51

What...it's possible to file a wrongful death suit in FEDERAL court? alp227 Jul 2013 #83

A civil rights suit is filed in Federal Court. 1monster Jul 2013 #96

I thought wrongful death laws existed in states, too. alp227 Jul 2013 #98

I think we are talking apples and oranges. This thread was about a federal civil rights review... 1monster Jul 2013 #100

Ah I get it. But "civil suit" those words threw me off a bit. nt alp227 Jul 2013 #114

Watch eric holders press Confrence on this from last year ceonupe Jul 2013 #104

The word "review" bothers me. It is too vanilla. The next thing we will hear from the Lint Head Jul 2013 #13

"The system must change, starting with ending corporations defined as persons" marions ghost Jul 2013 #134

So if he is indicted, DU will experience another gun troll repub invasion Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #17

K&R Owl Jul 2013 #25

"The department opened an investigation into Martin's death last year" PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #26

You just John2 Jul 2013 #143

Big Whoop. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #27

Yes! Then move onto the bigger issue of the flawed law which allowed Z to get off. n/t Avalux Jul 2013 #29

Yes. Yes. Let's keep a positive attitude coeur_de_lion Jul 2013 #36

Our system does not work that way ceonupe Jul 2013 #106

Having a negative attitude about it won't make it better coeur_de_lion Jul 2013 #109

good! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2013 #41

great to hear! hopemountain Jul 2013 #46

So to get this straight - the DOJ cowers in fear from well-heeled banksters - none of whom have WestSeattle2 Jul 2013 #52

There is no reason to bring that up here treestar Jul 2013 #68

Really? And just what is so "awful" about bringing up this striking comparison? Do you not WestSeattle2 Jul 2013 #141

A 17 year old kid is stalked and murdered treestar Jul 2013 #145

No. They won't. There's no win possible for them in this case. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #111

And protesting non-violently Iliyah Jul 2013 #55

Can't happen soon enough! For once I salute Holder's decision on this one. eom 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #56

He hasn't made a decision yet. They said they are reviewing the case but no decision totodeinhere Jul 2013 #77

I mean the DoJ's "decision" to even review the case at all, and then publicly announce it as well. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #102

great news miked62916 Jul 2013 #62

I hope they are able to rectify this. I feel even less safe than I did before. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #63

Yawn SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #64

Interesting perspective RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #70

It's All Window Dressing SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #75

Big Industry, corporations Own this country fascisthunter Jul 2013 #69

the man is a PROVEN THREAT TO SOCIETY Skittles Jul 2013 #76

Zimmerman or Sanford PD? n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #81

Thanks for posting this...MO, this is definitely good news. red dog 1 Jul 2013 #82

Does anyone know what specific federal civil rights statutes he could possibly be charged under? anomiep Jul 2013 #84

You won't get answers from the angry mob ceonupe Jul 2013 #107

Sorta like the Zimmerman legal system itsrobert Jul 2013 #110

�The Arc of the Moral Universe Is Long, but It Bends Toward Justice� B Stieg Jul 2013 #88

Good! Spazito Jul 2013 #93

How? What could they try him? I could see a Civil case TM family could Sue GZ. Walter-White Jul 2013 #94

Even if they don't win they can rake him over the coals for another year or two. mwrguy Jul 2013 #99

Good. At least it will be kept alive for the time being. Let's hope Cleita Jul 2013 #103

I'll beleive it when I see it. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #108

An eye for an eye is the Biblical solution. Conium Jul 2013 #115

Nothing will come from this, of course. David__77 Jul 2013 #116

K&R. pacalo Jul 2013 #117

I want that man in court for the next ten years. I want him to worry like Trayvons family everyday. bravenak Jul 2013 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #131

He'll remain a child killer in the eyes of America. bravenak Jul 2013 #132

So what do you think that'll amount to? Owl Jul 2013 #119

good! napkinz Jul 2013 #123

Good idea, Martin definitely had his civil right to be exactly where he was violated. Warpy Jul 2013 #127

Wow! Helen Borg Jul 2013 #129

Its not over, until is over. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #135

For depriving Trayvon of his civil rights? The Feds still have to use this vehical to convict.... marble falls Jul 2013 #147

I've been hoping for this! LongTomH Jul 2013 #150

Big pudgy dope libodem Jul 2013 #151

We can damn sure hope so madokie Jul 2013 #154