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Ilsa

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35. There are other ways to get

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:53 PM

Jul 2013

excellent training besides in the military. Private lessons, for one. In fact, a friend got private lessons after leaving the military, where she had earned several ribbons for marksmanship. She told me that her private instructor had given her the best lessons.

That being said, I think testing and safety/ handling proficiency should be tested before anyone is allowed to purchase a firearm. If anyone is going to be gifted a weapon, they should be required to go through that testing within a certain timeframe or turn in/refund the gun.

I appreciate the fact that you looked externally for answers, though. We don't have a monopoly on best solutions in the US on a number of tough issues.

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If you served in the military, you can own a gun. Otherwise it's illegal to own one. [View all] Mr. David Jul 2013 OP

I'm not sure what your point is, exactly... n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #1

I suspect his point is that if that were true here, fewer folks would own guns than do now. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #5

Israel has a military service requirement, does it not? anomiep Jul 2013 #8

I believe so, yes. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #12

hardly much of a point ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #2

I think it is valid mick063 Jul 2013 #4

police are taught those exact same things ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #6

Like I said. I'm fine with LEO's and military people owning a gun - they are regulated militias. Mr. David Jul 2013 #11

i think if people obtain the proper training ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #13

Who gets to decide... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #17

Not a whole lot of gun training in the Navy or Air Force. Disallow their veterans 2A rights? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #28

Perhaps your argument isn't an "end all" argument mick063 Jul 2013 #47

"Those qualifications are a subset of being a member of the military." What utter bullshit. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #49

I served in the Navy from 1984-1990 mick063 Jul 2013 #50

And your experience doesn't equal everyone else's either. MADem Jul 2013 #53

I aptly qualified my post. mick063 Jul 2013 #56

Well, this whole imbroglio started with "Not a lot of training in USN and USAF" and that IS true. MADem Jul 2013 #57

There were 17 frigates assigned to my squadron. mick063 Jul 2013 #58

Your notion that some veterans are qualified to possess firearms cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #60

You aren't giving me a warm fuzzy that you should own one. mick063 Jul 2013 #62

There's no need to be uncivil when discussing this topic. You should edit and apologize. nt MADem Jul 2013 #64

For you. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #65

You are a good person. MADem Jul 2013 #68

There are 23 frigates of fewer than 300 ships in service right now. MADem Jul 2013 #63

What I am saying is that comprehending rules of engagement is important mick063 Jul 2013 #66

I don't disagree with that, but there are plenty of folks who received firearms training in boot MADem Jul 2013 #67

So what conclusion are you trying to drive the readers to? Ilsa Jul 2013 #3

My point is that these people have been trained to handle guns through military training Mr. David Jul 2013 #9

Well, there are a few odd factors to consider... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #23

There are other ways to get Ilsa Jul 2013 #35

Only people with proper training can own a gun. Works for me. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #22

I'd like that as well. Huge fines or jail Ilsa Jul 2013 #37

Actually BigL Jul 2013 #7

And gets the proper training on handling a firearm. Mr. David Jul 2013 #10

And? BigL Jul 2013 #15

Know where not? JohnnyBoots Jul 2013 #14

I have served in the military... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #16

that's everybody in Israel no? Or almost so? nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #18

You are correct. nt MADem Jul 2013 #54

That would be like madville Jul 2013 #19

Of course Muslims serve in the IDF. former9thward Jul 2013 #25

I don't have a problem with people keeping guns at home. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #20

In your own home is fine HockeyMom Jul 2013 #21

Out of curiosity have you ever had a bad experience with a person ... spin Jul 2013 #32

Knife and male, yes HockeyMom Jul 2013 #33

Did your 68 year old neighbor have a concealed weapons permit? ... spin Jul 2013 #36

That may work for you but will it work for a 100 pound woman, ... spin Jul 2013 #31

I guess you aren't an NRA member HockeyMom Jul 2013 #38

It takes years of training to become a 2nd degree Black Belt. ... spin Jul 2013 #42

I've had zero formal judo training and I can throw just about anyone REP Jul 2013 #44

It's ridiculous for all those people to carry around guns LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #40

Your advise is excellent, however ... spin Jul 2013 #43

I don't know how to handle a rapist. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #45

I am not suggesting arming anybody. ... spin Jul 2013 #52

Pretty much everyone serves in the military. former9thward Jul 2013 #24

I put this in my journal... hunter Jul 2013 #26

Glad I don't live in Israel. ileus Jul 2013 #27

Why? Their ownership is well...low nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #30

And it s still highly regulated nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #29

My 2.8 cents (inflation) Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #34

So what they have a defense service law. Rex Jul 2013 #39

Yay PTSD. This op is mentally challanged. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #41

Even if true, so what? badtoworse Jul 2013 #46

In Japan You Have to Register A Sword otohara Jul 2013 #48

You have to register your US Navy ceremonial sword, too! nt MADem Jul 2013 #55

Well, damn near EVERYONE in Israel serves in the military--so that's just silly. MADem Jul 2013 #51

That's what I thought too. Rex Jul 2013 #59

Some Israeli's kids have figured it all out.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #61