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kentuck

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73. I don't think "Pootie" would do anything to look bad in front of his people..

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:01 PM

Jul 2013

So, I don't think he would give up Snowden since he is like a hero in Russia.

I do think the US is making some very attractive offers, thru John Kerry, to the Russian government if they will turn him over.

In the meantime, they should be covering all the assets. They should be moving to a different country and switching locations over the board. For example, if they are in Russia, they should maybe go to India, and vice versa, until all the assets are in different countries than they are now.

Otherwise, I do not see any options for Snowden except to accept Russian protection? He can later attempt to escape but it might be a very tough chore? He doesn't want to be stuck in Russia because he knows their security is much better than our own at this time.

Because nothing, NOTHING, that is on a computer is safe. Someone should notify the NSA to go back to paper communications and locked safes and keep the contacts to a minimum. Otherwise, they will be giving up our secrets forever.

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What information does Snowden have that the NSA is so concerned about? [View all] kentuck Jul 2013 OP

The Obvious Would Be That The US Government Pays For The Data cantbeserious Jul 2013 #1

Ask Putin--he's already got all that info, and he doesn't want any other nation to have it. MADem Jul 2013 #2

+1 wandy Jul 2013 #3

If That Was The Case, Snowden Would Not Be Living In A Transit Hotel cantbeserious Jul 2013 #4

Not sure what that has to do with anything. MADem Jul 2013 #5

The Response Was To The Insinuation That He Sold Information cantbeserious Jul 2013 #7

He could be staying in a luxury dacha with super high speed internet. MADem Jul 2013 #20

Not Likely If The Russians Had Actually Paid For Information cantbeserious Jul 2013 #26

A nice dacha might be part of the package. Or, it's a private place for a debriefing. MADem Jul 2013 #27

I think it is reasonable to assume the Russians are sophisticated enough to drain those computers of arely staircase Jul 2013 #54

An Easy Presumption To Make - A Harder Presumption To Prove cantbeserious Jul 2013 #55

I can't even prove Snowden or Putin exist arely staircase Jul 2013 #56

One Probably Knows The Common Phrase An Assumption Makes An ...... cantbeserious Jul 2013 #57

yeah, it is a lazy saying because it implies one should never make assumptions arely staircase Jul 2013 #58

Absolutely Correct - And In This Case Where All Anyone Has Is Speculation - Assumptions Are A Slippery Slope cantbeserious Jul 2013 #60

But even if they haven't got more information...? kentuck Jul 2013 #62

US tech firms that send employees to China are concerned enough about intellectual property theft... Hekate Jul 2013 #77

With The Latest Revelations - Sounds Like Precautions We Need To Take To Thwart The NSA cantbeserious Jul 2013 #83

Oh sure...but they could be giving him "nice accommodations" to show him what swell guys they are... MADem Jul 2013 #82

That is just absurd. Are you trying to pre empt morningfog Jul 2013 #10

"Pre empt Snodwden's death charge?" Are you saying he is suicidal? MADem Jul 2013 #17

I don't see yours either. It seems to me you are predicting his murder morningfog Jul 2013 #18

I am saying IF he ends up dead (that is not a prediction, that is a conditional statement), MADem Jul 2013 #21

IF he is killed, suspect number one will be the US. morningfog Jul 2013 #22

That's rather counter-intuitive. According to GG, if he ends up dead, he's got some sort MADem Jul 2013 #25

Who knows if there is actually such an insurance release trigger. morningfog Jul 2013 #49

GG needs to stop saying there is--it will get his Hot Story killed. MADem Jul 2013 #50

Remember what happened on Friday flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Maybe something like "We've got one of yours...a guy named Viktor... MADem Jul 2013 #41

Hubby and I have been going back and forth nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #6

I'm leaning towards your line of thought. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #15

As a side note nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #16

good point about his friends and the keys.. bobduca Jul 2013 #36

That might work, if they know who has the info, and who has the keys. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #39

Right bobduca Jul 2013 #47

Greenwald is washed up as a creditable journalist, probably part of a scheme who used Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #8

The daily nonsensical stir nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #9

Maybe the crown jewels will help somebody but the charges remain and somebidy forgot to beam me Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #12

More shit stirring nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #13

So you think your comments cures Greenwald's creditability, dont think so. Your type of answer is Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #19

As if Greenwald's credibility depends on a post deep in a thread on DU. ROFLMFAO Coyotl Jul 2013 #33

Yet more shit stirring nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #46

Yes and it is tiring. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #70

It is time to call it what it is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #71

Yes it is. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #72

In an age when "creditable journalist" = "stenographer pool", I suppose you are correct MNBrewer Jul 2013 #42

NSA is concerned about every piece of information jmowreader Jul 2013 #11

I remember that. Remember the WALKER scandal? MADem Jul 2013 #24

Remember James Hall? jmowreader Jul 2013 #38

Busy little basstid, wasn't he? MADem Jul 2013 #40

He really was jmowreader Jul 2013 #53

HAHAHAHA!!! "The floor is not a refrigerator!" MADem Jul 2013 #59

We had metal detectors at the doors, and they were VERY sensitive jmowreader Jul 2013 #68

They'd have been better off to go for the "paper camera!" MADem Jul 2013 #79

That's the kind of thing you use when you're stealing the other guy's secrets jmowreader Jul 2013 #84

Crimes committed by our government. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #14

The depth of existing programs and the existence of more programs 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #23

I don't believe it's this, but the top of my wish list would be Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #28

where all the cia are all around the world maybe allin99 Jul 2013 #29

Rosters, safe house locations, etc. hootinholler Jul 2013 #30

He claims to have had access to the names of US assets all over the world -- pnwmom Jul 2013 #31

The most obvious would be that Republicans are spying on Dems and altering the course of Democracy. Coyotl Jul 2013 #32

I think we'd all be surprised if they hadn't. Proof would be fascinating ... DirkGently Jul 2013 #88

I think they believe they MUST make an example of him Samantha Jul 2013 #34

false flag attacks committed in the Bush/Cheney era /nt temmer Jul 2013 #35

You fell for this schtick with Assange. Now you're going to fall for it again? randome Jul 2013 #43

What are you talking about?? kentuck Jul 2013 #44

Assange claimed to have secret banking documents. randome Jul 2013 #45

I had not read that? kentuck Jul 2013 #48

Google 'Assange poison pill'. randome Jul 2013 #51

What Greenwald has is a desire to be at the center of the story, even as he's being passed by. MADem Jul 2013 #52

And if Snowden had anything near the access he claims... randome Jul 2013 #64

Just so we keep things straight, I've looked up Greenwald's interview snappyturtle Jul 2013 #61

Somebody once said... kentuck Jul 2013 #63

It's not a question of "us" having him anywhere, with Greenwald encouraging ANYONE who has a beef MADem Jul 2013 #65

What should we do? kentuck Jul 2013 #66

If he really has some serious info, like names of contacts? MADem Jul 2013 #67

I don't think "Pootie" would do anything to look bad in front of his people.. kentuck Jul 2013 #73

Pootie Poot would be SURE to make it appear to be an unfortunate accident of fate. MADem Jul 2013 #76

Very well said. Do you think Snowden realizes he's been had yet? Hekate Jul 2013 #80

Maybe. I think he might have thought he was playing patriot games and helping the Paulbot cause, MADem Jul 2013 #81

Does Snowden read DU? RC Jul 2013 #85

Hard to know what he thinks, really...but the Russians are very good at psychological persuasions. MADem Jul 2013 #87

names of human intelligence assets? nuclear launch codes? arely staircase Jul 2013 #69

The NSA has nothing to do with anything like that 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #75

dude says he could hack into anything arely staircase Jul 2013 #78

If we knew the answer to that, the stuff wouldn't be classified, would it? Hekate Jul 2013 #74

I'm interested to hear what they were doing in 2011 DirkGently Jul 2013 #86

No, he said the US government should be on its knees and praying, not the country. Zorra Jul 2013 #89