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petronius

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108. A test I always use is to consider whether I would be embarrassed for my friends,

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:07 PM

Jul 2013

family, and colleagues to see what I post here on DU - would my behavior, manners, and reasoning stand up to the scrutiny of people I know and respect in real life?

I can quite confidently say that, if I found myself claiming that "gun humper" was a statement of fact rather than a childish insult, then I would have failed that test on at least two counts. How you score it for your own-self is up to you.

It's clear that people come to the internet in general, and DU in particular, for a variety of reasons. Some of us come for honest and civil discussion - and the value of that discussion depends on the degree to which we all approach it with honesty and civility. But others clearly come for other reasons: to vent, to rant and rage, or to provoke, insult, and antagonize. It often surprises me how many apparently educated and professional adults choose that last option in particular...

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Is it possible to be a progressive DUer and a gun owner? [View all] 11 Bravo Jul 2013 OP

As a gun owner, I'm looking forward to how this goes. flvegan Jul 2013 #1

Of course. It's possible to own an gun and be on any part of the political spectrum. RB TexLa Jul 2013 #2

Just don't tell that to some here. unreadierLizard Jul 2013 #4

I know and it drives me crazy. I just ignore Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #34

I love flamebait. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #3

Not my intent, but you're welcome to your opinion. 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #9

Right? renie408 Jul 2013 #10

Well... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #14

I for one appreciate some common sense from a gun owner BainsBane Jul 2013 #55

Pleae believe me, BB, I do NOT dislike you! 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #69

Cool BainsBane Jul 2013 #103

i agree with you. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #5

It's not a question of ownership, but of attitude. n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #6

Quite a few here don't make that distinction though. (n/t) LAGC Jul 2013 #12

You have been here close to 16,000 posts worth and you felt THIS thread was necessary? renie408 Jul 2013 #7

What's the difference between a gun "owner" and a gun "humper"? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #8

Humpers take selfies with their guns. ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #19

A 'gun owner' becomes a 'gun humper' at the exact moment the gun owner displays petronius Jul 2013 #30

When someone is closer to the Tea Party than the Democratic Party on gun policy BainsBane Jul 2013 #50

As I said: merely an insult, insisted on by people who prefer that sort of behavior... petronius Jul 2013 #86

It's a statement of fact BainsBane Jul 2013 #104

A test I always use is to consider whether I would be embarrassed for my friends, petronius Jul 2013 #108

I did not choose the term gun humper BainsBane Jul 2013 #110

Are you saying that "gun humper" is *not* intended to be an insult? petronius Jul 2013 #112

Of course it is BainsBane Jul 2013 #115

Right, an insult. Then we were in agreement right up to when you called it petronius Jul 2013 #118

I called my definition a statement of fact BainsBane Jul 2013 #120

...man who killed an armed... rrneck Jul 2013 #113

Yes, thank you BainsBane Jul 2013 #116

I thought it was after the third date. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #52

Kids move quickly these days. BainsBane Jul 2013 #107

We need a Canadian lawyer to chime in here.... ileus Jul 2013 #11

Let me answer it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #13

I'm extremely "progressive" and I own guns. roamer65 Jul 2013 #15

Yes thelordofhell Jul 2013 #16

Of course it is Maeve Jul 2013 #17

I know responsible gun owners. But, they would NEVER argue against universal background checks... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #18

Bingo. I'm one of those. roamer65 Jul 2013 #25

We're a big tent party, and the whole point of democracy is that many minds with varied backgrounds struggle4progress Jul 2013 #20

yes. At least I think so. cali Jul 2013 #21

Of course. ... spin Jul 2013 #22

Yes, I and thousands of other members are living proof of that. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #23

Zman could have said same thing, until he shot Trayvon. Now he can say it again. Hoyt Jul 2013 #61

Yes. Off to the trashcan, now. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #24

you're an american patriot sigmasix Jul 2013 #26

Jesus Christ Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #27

And you just made the OP's point Bake Jul 2013 #63

I'm surprised it took 27 posts, though ..... oldhippie Jul 2013 #101

Oh yeah. No doubt. Bake Jul 2013 #123

I think all legitimate gun owners needs to have their guns destroyed Mr. David Jul 2013 #28

I love a little irony. flvegan Jul 2013 #38

No offense but... I think you're a little bit freaky. Maybe it's just me. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #66

Because he used an illegal gun and they're debating whether he was sane or not. Mr. David Jul 2013 #68

Thanks for the confirmation. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #76

Don't you find it a tad odd to say people who own guns should be committed because guns kill Arcanetrance Jul 2013 #93

Calm down Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #29

Sure it is. Not all will agree, though. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #31

Yes Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #32

Of course DBoon Jul 2013 #33

Why do so many of them support Zimmerman ? JI7 Jul 2013 #35

i own guns and am appalled by the z verdict nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #41

I Don't Own Guns RobinA Jul 2013 #60

I was raised in a family of hunters, have hunted, still enjoy game, was ways taught gun Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #36

I don't own a gun (did for work in the past) and yes, progressives own guns The Straight Story Jul 2013 #37

Simple answer: 100% yes, even without any of the caveats or background... (nt) petronius Jul 2013 #39

+1. I couldn't put it any better. (nt) friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #59

i am a gun owner and a pretty liberal democrat arely staircase Jul 2013 #40

and you are right about trophy hunters too imho nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #42

Is it possible? Yes. Are you going to get some serious side eye LeftyMom Jul 2013 #43

You may be any of the above etherealtruth Jul 2013 #44

The "one-gun-a-month" law was a LIMIT. Prior to that there was NO limit to the number ... 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #54

I remember that law being passed. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #58

Virginia ends monthly one-gun purchase limit etherealtruth Jul 2013 #85

Part of the tragic Republican gains there. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #88

I understand that and lived in Virginia for several years etherealtruth Jul 2013 #84

As far as "how many guns" Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #77

yes Skittles Jul 2013 #45

That sounds very reasonable to me BainsBane Jul 2013 #46

I don't go anywhere NEAR the Gungeon, so I won't be convincing anyone. 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #65

Here comes a general rant...misplaced in the queue...sorry. roamer65 Jul 2013 #72

Isn't this getting uncomfortably close to the top post under General Discussion? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #47

Yes. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #48

A gun OWNER? Yes. A pro-gun ACTIVIST? No. Paladin Jul 2013 #49

Yes. It's possible. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #51

I am in that boat: Maine-i-acs Jul 2013 #53

Yes. Ask Gabby Giffords and her husband. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #56

I do not see carrying guns on city streets as progressive. Hoyt Jul 2013 #57

it's obvious to me that widespread gun ownership is not a net benefit to american society. KG Jul 2013 #62

Yes, it's not only possible, but a proven fact.... n/t Ghost in the Machine Jul 2013 #64

Of course it is Spirochete Jul 2013 #67

My litmus test is attitude: Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #70

Just Lay Low for a few days. bvar22 Jul 2013 #71

Absolutely. Now consider what it meant for you to have felt Robb Jul 2013 #74

1,000 times, THIS Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #80

Robb, I don't know where you stand with regard to me, but in many ways I consider you my brother. 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #83

I'm sorry you get lumped in with the rest of the idiotic rightwing gun trolls here. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #75

I think you are a perfect example of how a progressive can be a gun owner. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #78

This non-owner says "yes" n/t arcane1 Jul 2013 #79

Of course. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #81

Answer to the original question: OF COURSE... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #82

I am a gun owner Jenoch Jul 2013 #87

If I may - NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #91

I know the difference. Jenoch Jul 2013 #92

Some states, like mine, ban it for rifles. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #96

I agree it should be banned. Jenoch Jul 2013 #99

Yes. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #89

Sure, why not? Owl Jul 2013 #90

Dunno about progressive PD Turk Jul 2013 #94

Yes. steve2470 Jul 2013 #95

You are helping to perpetuate a dangerous, deadly culture. moondust Jul 2013 #97

Oh muh gawd!! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #98

Yes. I know plenty of progressive, liberal Democrats that own guns. Mr.Bill Jul 2013 #100

i used to own guns and was a lifetime nra member madrchsod Jul 2013 #102

I loathe guns, I'm a progressive and tpsbmam Jul 2013 #105

Concealed Carry - Fucking Sucks otohara Jul 2013 #106

Yep, I'm walking, talking proof! Even have a concealed weapon permit. williesgirl Jul 2013 #109

Is it possible to be a progressive DUer and a gun owner? rrneck Jul 2013 #111

As an 18E who completed the 11B course at Benning, I think you are wonderful and a true progressive. Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #114

I don't have any guns. Lugnut Jul 2013 #117

Gun fucker, gun fetishist (same thing, really), gungeoneer, or delicate flower? Iggo Jul 2013 #119

Gun owner for the purpose of hunting, hobby, home defense: Sure. Concealed carry? ecstatic Jul 2013 #121

Yes. n/t Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #122