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In reply to the discussion: Bob Cesca on Greenwald's "Worst Nightmare" Threat [View all]Hekate
(100,133 posts)29. Cesca has some choice phrases: “Don’t nobody move, see, or the United States government gets it!”
3) All of that said, the U.S. government has faced down Nazi Germany, the Japanese Empire, the British Empire and the Army of Northern Virginia. I think the government has seen its fair share of worst nightmares, extending far beyond the actions of an NSA hacker whos not even courageous enough in his convictions to return to the U.S. and face charges like others have.
And, I might add, the Soviet Union at the height of its power rattling nukes at us. I grew up with that lengthy scenario, and it was not fun. In my work with the VFP during the Bush II years, one of my friends was a university professor who had been a "Cold Warrior" in intel. At the outset of the Cuban Missile Crisis he dumped the wife and kids in the car and took them far out in the countryside, away from their city of residence, which was a target, then went back to his classified job. I was an ignorant kid, but he was an adult in the know, and that's how seriously he took it. But the US government, in the person of President Kennedy, did not back down.
I love this one:
4) In his subsequent clarification post, Greenwald wrote, The US government has acted with wild irrationality. He continues by writing that the government has attempted to block Snowden from fleeing Russia. Yeah, totally irrational behavior in pursuit of a fugitive who claims to have insurance documents that could seriously harm the U.S. government. Clearly in all of Greenwalds legal dealings hes failed to learn anything about how fugitives are pursued. Same goes for Snowden.
And this one about the threats made by Greenwald, that he tried to deny were threats:
6) ... The Argentinian newspaper simply asked Greenwald if Snowden had additional documents. The question: Beyond the revelations about the spying system performance in general, what extra information has Snowden? Theres nothing in that question about a potential assassination or insurance documents that could harm the U.S. government.
Greenwald volunteered the threatening language, not Snowden or Wikileaks or Assange. He did it in classic noir mob movie style: Dont nobody move, see, or the United States government gets it!
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/07/greenwalds-big-threat-if-snowden-is-assassinated-the-u-s-government-will-pay-the-price/#.UeNtjZ4hOOA.twitter
I have to say Cesca has a certain perspective that by now I find fairly refreshing.
And, I might add, the Soviet Union at the height of its power rattling nukes at us. I grew up with that lengthy scenario, and it was not fun. In my work with the VFP during the Bush II years, one of my friends was a university professor who had been a "Cold Warrior" in intel. At the outset of the Cuban Missile Crisis he dumped the wife and kids in the car and took them far out in the countryside, away from their city of residence, which was a target, then went back to his classified job. I was an ignorant kid, but he was an adult in the know, and that's how seriously he took it. But the US government, in the person of President Kennedy, did not back down.
I love this one:
4) In his subsequent clarification post, Greenwald wrote, The US government has acted with wild irrationality. He continues by writing that the government has attempted to block Snowden from fleeing Russia. Yeah, totally irrational behavior in pursuit of a fugitive who claims to have insurance documents that could seriously harm the U.S. government. Clearly in all of Greenwalds legal dealings hes failed to learn anything about how fugitives are pursued. Same goes for Snowden.
And this one about the threats made by Greenwald, that he tried to deny were threats:
6) ... The Argentinian newspaper simply asked Greenwald if Snowden had additional documents. The question: Beyond the revelations about the spying system performance in general, what extra information has Snowden? Theres nothing in that question about a potential assassination or insurance documents that could harm the U.S. government.
Greenwald volunteered the threatening language, not Snowden or Wikileaks or Assange. He did it in classic noir mob movie style: Dont nobody move, see, or the United States government gets it!
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/07/greenwalds-big-threat-if-snowden-is-assassinated-the-u-s-government-will-pay-the-price/#.UeNtjZ4hOOA.twitter
I have to say Cesca has a certain perspective that by now I find fairly refreshing.
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I agree with Cesca. GG can find more ways to say the same thing, than anyone I know.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#1
I translated the interview. Most of what is reported in English and here on DU is
Cleita
Jul 2013
#4
Yep that's what the article said and although it doesn't say who got the information, I would
Cleita
Jul 2013
#77
It's the cherry picking of his phrases out of context, especially the last one on your post. You and
Cleita
Jul 2013
#75
they are only denigrating those who highlight the malfeasance of our government because
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#55
"Perhaps, it's far easier to deny our "government's" global bullying than to work with others to..."
Kolesar
Jul 2013
#59
Oh my, that Greenwald is over the top! Let's all get behind our surveillance society!!1!!11
PSPS
Jul 2013
#9
Am I the only one wondering if the government will sicc a sharknado on Snowden?
struggle4progress
Jul 2013
#13
Oh baloney. If your online reading of "comments" has that affect on you, you weren't too committed..
Hekate
Jul 2013
#39
That Libertarian Greenwald and his current cause celebre Libertarian Snowden turned me SOCIALIST!!!!
Ikonoklast
Jul 2013
#60
Cesca has some choice phrases: “Don’t nobody move, see, or the United States government gets it!”
Hekate
Jul 2013
#29
In a perfect world, Greenwald would have been taken into custody after those comments. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#43
EXACTLY - In a perfect world it would be journalist who would have to answer questions from the
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#46
A real journalist might consider protecting his source instead of exploiting his source
Hekate
Jul 2013
#51
real journalist would get permission from the government before they report things. Real journalist
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#52