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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Pholus
(4,062 posts)112. Oh yes. People fight hard when desperate. Fundamental tenet of the "cheap labor" movement.
I'm amazed. I just had to explain this on DEMOCRATIC Underground for the THIRD TIME in a single thread.
People are lined up fighting for jobs in this country too. Doesn't mean it's cause the jobs are the greatest, it's just the best option they have. It's why EVERY tenet of the Republican party has the goal of making people desperate -- make the worker be happy for what they got and then pay them a fraction of what they are WORTH while lining your pockets with the difference.
Cheap labor is exactly why the jobs left in the 70's and exactly why APPLE just told President Obama they're not coming back here.
By the way, , that was APPLE EXECUTIVES saying that. Why SHOULDN'T I be singling out your poor darlings for special scorn? Why as a Democrat and a supporter of OUR middle class should I love Apple?
Yeah, the pay compares well but to get that pay they get WORKED LIKE DOGS. Apple is sitting on a mountain of cash and won't do a damned thing to improve that. Ohhhhhhh so ethical. The difference between me and you is that eventually it will be cheaper to go full-robotic in manufacturing. On that day, APPLE will drop their Chinese work force like a used hanky -- try to deny THAT with a straight face. I'll feel pretty bad about it and you'll be full-on talking about the wonderful lifestyle of the lucky few people who got jobs to maintain the robots and fondling your newest year's i-doo-dad.
In the end, though, there is no arguing with "cheap labor" conservatives -- regardless of which political party they ostensibly call their own.
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The related post is the Scheer article which was discussed elsewhere this morning...
Pholus
Feb 2012
#9
Great point "the physical conditions are way, way above average of the norm."
grahamhgreen
Feb 2012
#13
That's easy. Make students sign a no-suicide pact with financial penalties for their survivors.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#82
Fascinating. North Korea also has a similar law, if you kill yourself, your entire family suffers.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#88
Begs the question - how bad is the norm? We need to end the Costly Trade Agreements, increase tariff
grahamhgreen
Feb 2012
#12
Way, way? Is that some professional lingo? Is 'way, way' twice 'way' or 10x 'way'?
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#14
It's a professional term: Way, way is "way to the way'th power" In other words EXPONENTIALLY. nt
Pholus
Feb 2012
#17
Your points are logical, and well reasoned, I do not expect a coherent response.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#57
I'm glad you pointed out the required technical conditions, I probably would've overlooked that.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#64
I'm simply amazed how things like this can ever be justified. Or that people even try...
Pholus
Feb 2012
#87
Sounds to me like "Hey, there *might* be a *surprise* inspection on Tuesday at 6:30 a.m." n/t
Earth_First
Feb 2012
#25
The board of the "Fair Labor Association" is full of corporate CEOs. What a joke!
Romulox
Feb 2012
#42
It's a significant amount, to be sure. I consider it dishonest not to disclose this fact
Romulox
Feb 2012
#47
IMHO, some of this raises questions about using DU for commercial promotion. nt
Romulox
Feb 2012
#48
So anyone who uses an electronic device has no business being concerned about the working conditions
Incitatus
Feb 2012
#58
Yes. I imagine you thought this comeback was a real winner. THEN YOU RAN ACROSS ME...
Pholus
Feb 2012
#90
I thought you said I wasn't worth debating with. I'll counter that Walmart sells loads too.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#121
Incidentally, that does prove you ran out of arguments when you resorted to "neener neener" talk.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#122
I appreciate the tactics which were brought to bear to make this happen. Very classy. See #82.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#83
Okay. Let's put this "everybody does it" thing to bed here. It's simply morally repugnant.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#110
Oh yes. People fight hard when desperate. Fundamental tenet of the "cheap labor" movement.
Pholus
Feb 2012
#112
Apple says that you too hold a blacksmith's hammer in the brave new "global economy."
Pholus
Feb 2012
#114
You make no sense. Why would ruining a perfectly functional TV make this better?
Pholus
Feb 2012
#116
Not enough? Too many? Who counts? Just call me an Apple hater; I like it.
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
#80