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Melinda

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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:07 AM Jul 2013

Bush-Cheney began illegal NSA spying before 9/11, says telcom CEO [View all]

Contradicting a statement by ex-vice president Dick Cheney on Sunday that warrantless domestic surveillance might have prevented 9/11, 2007 court records indicate that the Bush-Cheney administration began such surveillance at least 7 months prior to 9/11.

The Bush administration bypassed the law requiring such actions to be authorized by FISA court warrants, the body set up in the Seventies to oversee Executive Branch spying powers after abuses by Richard Nixon. Former QWest CEO John Nacchios said that at a meeting with the NSA on February 27, 2001, he and other QWest officials declined to participate. AT&T, Verizon and Bellsouth all agreed to shunt customer communications records to an NSA database.

In 2007 the Denver Post reported:

""Nacchio suggested that the NSA sought phone, Internet and other customer records from Qwest in early 2001. When he refused to hand over the information, the agency retaliated by not granting lucrative contracts to the Denver-based company, he claimed.""

Other sources corroborate the former CEO's allegations, which were made in the course of his legal defense against insider trading charges. Both Slate.com and National Journal have published reports in which sources are quoted which support the former CEO's claims.


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Limited in what I can post, the article is a must read. On Sunday, Cheney claimed that if he'd had the ability to spy pre 9/11, his admin could have stopped the attack. Really? According to this mans testimony, Bush*Co had been spying for some 7 months previously.... Really. The article goes on to state that despite the FBI having the data NSA has been collecting on us all, the Boston terrorism wasn't stopped. And it wasn't.

If this mans testimony is true, the DOJ should investigate, hell a Federal Grand Jury needs to convene. Why do we need our govt to collect our data IF said collection does NOT keep us safe? Those calling for the head of Snowden should be front and center demanding Bush and Cheney be prosecuted for violating their oath of office and illegal actions. And that's my 2 cents.
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Nacchio was the one Telco CEO who said, 'No' to domestic spying. Octafish Jul 2013 #1
And people wonder why Snowden didn't stick around. JC, Octafish, JC. Melinda Jul 2013 #4
Lots of background here = Deja DU: Coyotl Jul 2013 #10
Thanks Coyotl, I missed this back then... all this time later and nothing. We are pawns. Melinda Jul 2013 #19
Actually there was a big change, after we caught them and this was made public knowledge Coyotl Jul 2013 #20
Not sure we ever got to the bottom of "able danger" Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #2
And "We" never will. Melinda Jul 2013 #5
En-Able Danger Blue State Bandit Jul 2013 #12
the other thing i don't understand about the gov't apologists is... allin99 Jul 2013 #3
Such a great post. If Obama is the man his apologists say, then he must END the surveillance state! chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #7
The NSA whistleblowers said the same thing. But don't you worry, civil liberties guaranteed Catherina Jul 2013 #6
Surveillance is key to successful sneak attacks johnnyreb Jul 2013 #8
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #9
K&R - more exposure for those who think they can trust their govt. Snowden is NOT the enemy. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #11
Remember Qwest communications? wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #13
Yes, QWest CEO John Nacchios is the one mentioned in the OP; see Post #1 too. Melinda Jul 2013 #18
Yes, Bush/Cheney should be in the crosshairs for investigation in this matter. Cleita Jul 2013 #14
Huge head nod here. TY Cleita n/t Melinda Jul 2013 #17
Snowden didn't mind it when Bush spied on us. Cheap_Trick Jul 2013 #15
Have you always been intransigent? Melinda Jul 2013 #16
I have every right to have doubts Cheap_Trick Jul 2013 #21
Of course you have every right to your beliefs. However "worship at altar of Snowden"? - Say what? Melinda Jul 2013 #23
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #22
Investigations into the two terrorists in San Diego noise Jul 2013 #24
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