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75. Yep, with the group mod leading the way. His standard:

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:10 AM

Jul 2013

The question is "where the kids asshole enough to get physically threatening?"

I doubt it, but it's not impossible

Actually, it is impossible when they never even got out of the fucking car, gun-for-brains.\

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Or if the response to your request makes you scared enough to start shooting...

...maybe the problem is the responder.

I don't know how this transpired. It can, literally, go either way.

What there a shotgun? I don't know.

Was the history of the men in the car such that it's likely that they would have a shotgun? That, after the shooting, they would ditch the shotgun to protect themselves?

I don't know.

Was the history of the guy with the handgun such that he was likely to open up without provocation? Was he likely to be so fearful that he would over-react and shoot at unarmed men?

I don't know.

Just working himself into "reasonable doubt" formulation. Desperate they are.

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Black, 17, and Shot Dead by Concealed Carry Permit Holder in Florida (spoiler: not Zimmerman) [View all] Robb Jul 2013 OP

And he will be convicted ceonupe Jul 2013 #1

I don't think so JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #2

Do Not Think He Will Walk erpowers Jul 2013 #12

And he had no injuries Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #17

and Trayvon was just walking down the sidewalk Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #20

Lack of Witnesses erpowers Jul 2013 #29

But the first hand witness JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #36

On the other hand,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2013 #39

I will JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #23

I lived in Jax for a time. Disgusting-ass place. I was in a band and got beat up because... BlueJazz Jul 2013 #30

now you can just shoot all four of them leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #61

LOL! BlueJazz Jul 2013 #67

Ha! JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #78

LOL!! Lucky Luciano Jul 2013 #97

yeah, open fire into a car full of teenagers because "I thought they had a gun!" anneboleyn Jul 2013 #109

I've lived south of Jax for nearly forty years. I'll agree. I don't like Jacksonville. That said, 1monster Jul 2013 #87

+1... I've seen this story play out... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #74

Glad you stopped by JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #76

On and one more piece of dirt JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #79

It's the new segregation taking over. zeemike Jul 2013 #85

You can make those claims or learn the law. Your choice. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #25

"a reasonable person" Autumn Colors Jul 2013 #34

I'm pretty sure "law" these days has nothing to do with Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #89

+1. nt Robb Jul 2013 #92

Good for you gopiscrap Jul 2013 #54

Statistically, no, he won't. Robb Jul 2013 #4

+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #5

Static ts about crimes are misleading ceonupe Jul 2013 #8

"Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that violent crime is not a consequence of handgun ... hack89 Jul 2013 #27

And a tidbit that wont go over well with many here! nt 7962 Jul 2013 #95

What are the statistics for the general population? anomiep Jul 2013 #31

Conservatively, 70%. Robb Jul 2013 #38

Ok anomiep Jul 2013 #43

The article anomiep Jul 2013 #88

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #48

Don't hit the humpers with facts!-NT Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #65

I agree, very different facts. He said there was a gun, and not even a small one, 7962 Jul 2013 #13

Here is the CNN link ceonupe Jul 2013 #51

OK, I thought your original post meant that the original story 7962 Jul 2013 #96

I seriously doubt it. NOLALady Jul 2013 #33

I hope you're right and I'm wrong, but . . . Jack Rabbit Jul 2013 #37

I have no confidence that this will happen uponit7771 Jul 2013 #47

he saw what he thought was a shotgun, he had reasonable grounds to think his life was in danger. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #99

makes alot of diffrence ceonupe Jul 2013 #100

I forgot about that story - North Georgia, right? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #101

One claims he was with the shooter and did not do it ceonupe Jul 2013 #105

Okay - thanks Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #107

Her only crime ceonupe Jul 2013 #108

The big, glaring, massive difference though Number23 Jul 2013 #112

Very different case wercal Jul 2013 #3

good thing Herbert Mullin didn't operate in FL: he, too, genuinely thought the MisterP Jul 2013 #32

Do you think that 'genuine thought' is reasonable? anomiep Jul 2013 #45

This is false, the jury will have to deliberate on a ABSURD proffeing of "reasonable fear" uponit7771 Jul 2013 #50

Sorry you can't see the differences in this case wercal Jul 2013 #58

Unfortunately it's the same inept prosecutors office on this case as the Zimmerman case bigdarryl Jul 2013 #6

I think he gets convicted justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #7

Disagree JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #14

Ask yourself this justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #24

I would HAVE to believe him JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28

are you being sarcastic?? justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #44

No - I'm serious JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #53

"I don't know if they were trying to stash something in the car...." Robb Jul 2013 #18

Gun owners kill normal people. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #9

Why haven't we heard more about this situation? lynne Jul 2013 #10

Future defense attorney: He thought he saw a shotgun CanonRay Jul 2013 #11

Exactly JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #15

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #52

I've always said I wouldn't go either - even if matthews Jul 2013 #106

I'll bet money this guy gets time. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #16

I wonder how many went hunting this weekend BainsBane Jul 2013 #19

With the exception of no prior call to the police, its pretty close. He's guilty and after.... marble falls Jul 2013 #21

This Dunn asshole fled from the scene after he shot those kids up MrScorpio Jul 2013 #22

I agree MrScorpio JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #26

What the white jury will see: "the kids had a shotgun, and after geek tragedy Jul 2013 #60

The Phantom Shotgun Defense MrScorpio Jul 2013 #64

The Gungeoneers were already inventing ways to acquit the guy: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #69

Jeez, Louise. nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #70

Not surprised at all, and I'm guessing they'll be the first ones to celebrate... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #72

That's a must-read thread right there. Thanks for posting it. Robb Jul 2013 #73

Yep, with the group mod leading the way. His standard: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #75

They enjoy defending their own to the bitter end Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #91

Yep, if blacks are insufficiently respectful towards white, summary execution. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #93

Oh wow JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #81

even knowing that THE KIDS NEVER LEFT THE CAR, here's the Gungeoneer standard: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #82

"WHAT IF IT WAS JUSTIFIED?" Holy damn shit. Number23 Jul 2013 #111

Different case. Different facts. DirkGently Jul 2013 #35

Kicking for future. yourout Jul 2013 #40

I predict a not guilty verdict. Blackford Jul 2013 #41

The racists are celebrating! It's open season! This guy will walk.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #42

Why I wonder 1st degree murder Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #46

Because he willfully murdered another human being with malice nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #62

Understood. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #68

talked about this case since it happened angrychair Jul 2013 #49

He'll walk. White jurors will have an image of a car full of black teens, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #55

It sounds like the police did a better job investigating avebury Jul 2013 #56

Disgusting from the links comments page MillennialDem Jul 2013 #57

yeah, it's par for the course Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #94

I remember reading about this skeewee08 Jul 2013 #59

I believed Zim should have been found not guilty Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #63

he'll heaven05 Jul 2013 #66

This is why we need to teach our minority children to carry and AIM... LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #71

Too many witnesses HockeyMom Jul 2013 #77

that's legal isn't it? bowens43 Jul 2013 #80

The defense will claim that the kids disposed of the shotgun kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #83

Or, make the case about whether geek tragedy Jul 2013 #84

They can't, the cameras were on...BUT in a Man slaughter case the JURY can ONLY deliberate on what uponit7771 Jul 2013 #90

Dunn made a mistake Turbineguy Jul 2013 #86

Consider anomiep Jul 2013 #98

I assume nothing after that bullshit from Saturday... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #104

I didn't ask anyone to assume anything anomiep Jul 2013 #110

Oh dear, he 'thought' he saw a shotgun Rex Jul 2013 #102

Just when I thought the Freepers couldn't be more demonic. kalisto2010 Jul 2013 #103