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randome

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6. And yet he wasn't able to steal personal data to support his claims.

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:37 AM

Jul 2013

To get as far as he did implies -to me, at least- that he had inside help. To not get as far as personal data implies that the safeguards and restrictions in place are pretty good.

A conclusion that Carl Bernstein reached, as well.

But he definitely needs to stand trial so we can learn how he was able to steal so much.
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Still find it amazing that one mid-level guy can steal so much highly classified information. [View all] trumad Jul 2013 OP

great question.. nenagh Jul 2013 #1

One mid-level guy who was "on the job" for four scant WEEKS, too. nt MADem Jul 2013 #2

and was a contractor Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #42

Huh? AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #46

He didn't work for the Federal Government. n/t Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #47

Ok AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #50

He worked for a private contractor RainDog Jul 2013 #61

Ok I understand that AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #66

I was just noting that no one Snowden worked with was a govt employee RainDog Jul 2013 #68

This is how authoritarians like to work RainDog Jul 2013 #70

The building where Snowden worked AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #74

What does that matter when the monies are allocated? n/t RainDog Jul 2013 #75

You said no one Snowden worked with was a govt. employee AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #77

okay. RainDog Jul 2013 #78

Private intel AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #79

well, it's also a specialty RainDog Jul 2013 #83

No offense taken AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #84

But it is morally wrong, imo, to reduce war to a career path only RainDog Jul 2013 #86

But you are overlooking one key fact AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #88

Well, not surprising at all, tho, imo RainDog Jul 2013 #92

this x 1000's! NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #90

one other question about this set up RainDog Jul 2013 #87

You can go AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #89

Yeah. That's what I've heard about the CIA RainDog Jul 2013 #91

But that was just at BAH. Greenwald slipped up and said that he took that DevonRex Jul 2013 #62

I would really like to get a better sense of all the jobs this guy had. MADem Jul 2013 #69

Switzerland was part of his CIA years. DevonRex Jul 2013 #71

That's what I've been wondering get the red out Jul 2013 #3

Because outsourcing to a private contractor LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #4

Possible responses. longship Jul 2013 #5

But what he sent to Der Spiegel apparently was more higher level stuff. randome Jul 2013 #7

Unless we see what that information was, it's MineralMan Jul 2013 #8

We'll see when we see the details of that. longship Jul 2013 #9

Yeah, you're both right. Not knowing what was redacted doesn't point to anything yet. randome Jul 2013 #12

You dont know this yet you continue to state it post after post. You dont know what he gave to whom rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14

I'm only going by what Der Spiegel says. randome Jul 2013 #16

I dont claim to believe what Snowden says. I believe that there is enough evidence to rhett o rick Jul 2013 #19

I don't think you'll find a single soul on DU who doesn't want more transparency and less secrecy. randome Jul 2013 #20

Or AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #40

And yet he wasn't able to steal personal data to support his claims. randome Jul 2013 #6

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #11

Good grief. Why dont we ask his supervisor? Oh I know, you dont want to bother the rhett o rick Jul 2013 #18

I'm sure there are spinning heads and an investigation at NSA regarding Snowden's theft. randome Jul 2013 #22

What makes you so sure that anyone other than Booz-Allen/NSA are investigating them? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #24

My freedoms are abridged in many ways. So is everyone's. randome Jul 2013 #25

I seriously doubt that the results of said alleged investigations will ever be released. Laelth Jul 2013 #28

I would hope Obama recognizes how much we want more transparency. randome Jul 2013 #29

I share your hope. Laelth Jul 2013 #31

"Running to hide". I don't know if you listen to NPR, but this is a great clip re: Venezuela. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #82

+2 It's important to know who helped him flamingdem Jul 2013 #80

THIS ... THIS is the REALLY big story coming out of this whole thing. Greenwalds ODS made him mis it uponit7771 Jul 2013 #10

His resume from the last 10 years shows a useful dupe for BushInc. ops blm Jul 2013 #13

+ AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #23

What ever comes of this Snowden mess, you're right! one thing is sure............ wandy Jul 2013 #30

Obama is honoring HW Bush at the White House TODAY. Obama and Michelle held court with W and Laura chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #32

I've no doubt this was orchestrated long ago, in exchange for 'help' on immigration bill that blm Jul 2013 #33

You are making my point exactly: as BFEE useful dupes go, Obama is far outstripping Greenwald. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #34

Obama knows he's stuck doing this - Greenwald isn't showing any awareness that he blm Jul 2013 #36

Still, Obama = EXCEEDINGLY more USEFUL TOOL. Obama is quite aware of what he is doing. I don't chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #37

Obama's STUCK in that position that will continue long after Obama leaves - and we can blm Jul 2013 #54

+2 flamingdem Jul 2013 #81

Is the metadata more secure? alc Jul 2013 #15

Given his unique position and once-in-a-lifetime chance Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #17

Like Julian Assange's 'poison pill' archive? randome Jul 2013 #21

What I know from dealing with the intelligence world. liberal N proud Jul 2013 #26

Bigoted response AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #39

Huh? liberal N proud Jul 2013 #43

Intelligence Analyst AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #45

I don't plan on taking you seriously until you provide your credentials. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #51

Well AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #56

I don't trust random people on the internet claiming to be intelligence analysts. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #57

Wha? AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #59

Any idiot with a keyboard could say they are an intelligence analyst. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #60

Dude I got it AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #64

Your full name, a photograph, a list of prior employers and contacts and your resume. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #65

LOL AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #72

I find it amazing that Snowden is getting all of the blame. Dash87 Jul 2013 #27

What I find amazing that some here are in total denial of the problems we are facing in rhett o rick Jul 2013 #35

Hate to break it to you AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #38

Good post trumad Jul 2013 #41

Yes AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #44

Reminds me of the human reliability test in Dr. Strangelove... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #53

Or maybe he was a better than average hacker and was able to access higher Cleita Jul 2013 #48

Not at the facility he worked at AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #49

It was a private contractor, Booze Allen and he was hired through another private sub-contractor Cleita Jul 2013 #52

Yes I Know AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #55

Well, it's wrong. I'm totally against our government being privatized. Cleita Jul 2013 #58

Ok AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #63

I saw the rise of contracting at UCLA, where I once worked. Cleita Jul 2013 #67

It Has Less to Do With the Level of Clearance On the Road Jul 2013 #73

The sad fact is that in PACOM AnalystInParadise Jul 2013 #76

My Knowledge is a Little Old On the Road Jul 2013 #93

...or maybe agent46 Jul 2013 #85