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In reply to the discussion: Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)5. This is why both parties are EXACTLY the same on Liberty and privacy issues
The FISA Amendments Act is the most sweeping surveillance statute ever enacted by Congress. It allows dragnet surveillance of Americans international communications with none of the safeguards that the Constitution requires. This kind of law should not be shielded from judicial scrutiny,
Democrats are way better on contraception,
but what about FISA?
or Habeus Corpus?
or the military industrial complex?
All the big anti-freedom/anti-constitutional planks that hold up the Republican party have become Democratic planks as well.
It is now about elections to determine the social issues only, the rest appears to be agreed upon between the parties already going in, including unfortunately many of the supply side voodoo economics policies that the third way and the GOP agree upon.
Even outsourcing jobs via "free" trade deals have become an agreed upon effort by both parties.
There are many differences between the parties, but far less than there used to be.
What concerns me the most are these relentless bi-partisan attacks on the constitution.
Soon we will be free in name only, in many ways we are already there.
Democrats are way better on contraception,
but what about FISA?
or Habeus Corpus?
or the military industrial complex?
All the big anti-freedom/anti-constitutional planks that hold up the Republican party have become Democratic planks as well.
It is now about elections to determine the social issues only, the rest appears to be agreed upon between the parties already going in, including unfortunately many of the supply side voodoo economics policies that the third way and the GOP agree upon.
Even outsourcing jobs via "free" trade deals have become an agreed upon effort by both parties.
There are many differences between the parties, but far less than there used to be.
What concerns me the most are these relentless bi-partisan attacks on the constitution.
Soon we will be free in name only, in many ways we are already there.
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Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
OP
True but since our rights are surrendered for us and sometimes done so covertly
TheKentuckian
Feb 2012
#4
Heh, even Saint Dennis Kucinich voted for H. J. Res. 64 which enabled warrentless wiretapping.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#16
Do you seek out negative Obama/Democrat articles or are they sent to you?
great white snark
Feb 2012
#13
Maybe he is just looking for pro-democracy and pro-civil rights articles.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2012
#15
Do you have an opinion on the article or would you rather engage in drive-by personal attacks?
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#17
What if the ACLU lost this case? Wouldn't it then become permanent as opposed to the possibility
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#18
Doesn't have anything to do with liberalism. That's besides the point anyway.
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#26
Yeah, the conservatives are going to come down hard against a warrantless wiretapping bill..
Fumesucker
Feb 2012
#45
I thought this has been litigated during the Bush era already. BTW, the White House doesn't...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#22
Remember how everyone was upset when Bush/Cheney got Republicans hired into the DOJ....
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#27
Right and the POTUS gains nothing by simply having the DOJ roll over on the case
treestar
Feb 2012
#41
Everybody knows the ACLU is jampacked with troublemaking "professional leftists".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#32
They want selective justice. If a Republican didn't challenge some despotic law...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#47