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Silent3

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81. So, "speaking out of frustration" excuses crazy talk?

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:28 AM

Jul 2013

As if the only way to express anger and frustration is to go overboard, to propose stupid ideas (like eliminating juries) that would cause more harm than good?

We should hope for no better from our fellow DUers than emotional outbursts where the actual content of their words needs to be graded on a curve, adjusting for some expected, pre-excused lapses in sanity?

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DU lost its mind after the Zimmerman verdict [View all] Bake Jul 2013 OP

Its pretty embarassing actually naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #1

This. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #24

What was Trayvon ever accused of? ananda Jul 2013 #73

I didn't say he was accused of anything. Nt naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #78

Zimmerman accused him of being suspiciously black Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #86

Nonsense.. No one is advocating against true "self defense" hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2

Is that what I said? Bake Jul 2013 #12

Your call out of DUers who disagree with you on the verdict and your egregious mischaracerization hlthe2b Jul 2013 #17

Thank you. No one is suggesting the things stated in the OP. n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #64

+1 OP is swinging at straw men woolldog Jul 2013 #74

double standards are funny things hfojvt Jul 2013 #129

No, indeed, that DUer did not mischaracterize what other DUers said. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #136

Yes, it is what you said muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #79

You may not look for trouble, but that doesn't stop the Zimmermans Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #88

Actually, you said that you believe a rapist has the right to murder your wife. reusrename Jul 2013 #118

+1 Hangingon Jul 2013 #3

Broad Brush there.... trumad Jul 2013 #4

Are you nuts? Bake Jul 2013 #18

+2, premium Jul 2013 #5

Also, to unfairly broadbrush other DU members based upon differences of opinions, & get away with it NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #6

Then you weren't paying attention Bake Jul 2013 #25

The jury system dates back to Magna Carta. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #7

Lost it's mind? You just now noticed? hobbit709 Jul 2013 #8

No, I waited until now to post. Bake Jul 2013 #27

And the boycott calls are insane ksoze Jul 2013 #9

Minority teenage issues?? Is that what you call murdering a kid? Talk about dismissive. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #61

Chill out mind reader ksoze Jul 2013 #99

and federal civil rights prosecution would be double joepardy markiv Jul 2013 #10

Federal prosecution would not be double jeopardy--different sovereign entity. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #16

i know of no case where the state tried someone for something substantial markiv Jul 2013 #20

Your ignorance is not a defense against history. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #26

do you believe the state failed to prosecute this case markiv Jul 2013 #30

Doesn't matter, feds can always step in if there's a violation of federal criminal law. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #31

yes it does matter, what people are asking them to do, is double jeopardy, in spirit markiv Jul 2013 #35

So now you're talking lofty principles instead of the law nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #37

double jeopardy is more than just a 'lofty principal' markiv Jul 2013 #43

I just proved to you that there is no right against federal prosecutions geek tragedy Jul 2013 #48

perception is reality markiv Jul 2013 #56

You are wrong ceonupe Jul 2013 #114

fbi report Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #128

Yep ceonupe Jul 2013 #143

Wasn't that the case with the Rodney King police officers?? RockaFowler Jul 2013 #140

They were different charges anomiep Jul 2013 #47

Every federal charge is different from the state charge, since geek tragedy Jul 2013 #51

Well anomiep Jul 2013 #82

Try the Rodney King & Danziger Bridge cases..... Little Star Jul 2013 #45

A consideration of facts is going to slow things down. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #65

this case is precisely why the feds have to step in noiretextatique Jul 2013 #50

All of that has nothing to do with what happened in the Zimmerman trial... Pelican Jul 2013 #68

THE EVIDENCE IS AMERICAN HISTORY noiretextatique Jul 2013 #104

What are you talking about? Pelican Jul 2013 #107

Yep! Little Star Jul 2013 #69

The burden of proof is even harder in a Federal civil rights charge hack89 Jul 2013 #80

i don't think so noiretextatique Jul 2013 #105

It was not prominent in the trial hack89 Jul 2013 #110

i am not sure why they didn't noiretextatique Jul 2013 #113

Claims =/= proof hack89 Jul 2013 #119

how do you prove someone is racist? noiretextatique Jul 2013 #123

I can think of several hack89 Jul 2013 #124

No one lost their minds. mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #11

She won't "brandish." Bake Jul 2013 #33

she will shoot mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #39

Right...and the dead person will never be able to tell his/her side. Atman Jul 2013 #49

I just read the law and you're absolutely right Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #92

And if its reasonable. You're damn right Bake Jul 2013 #52

If there was ever a case for expressed outrage, this is it... Yet those who can not understand that. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #55

So, "speaking out of frustration" excuses crazy talk? Silent3 Jul 2013 #81

Interesting, where were these posts because I never saw them Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #13

Then you missed it. All of it. Bake Jul 2013 #36

Maybe I did, I guess I just don't click on those posts Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #60

so did you comment on THOSE threads instead of making this all about you? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #93

If you honestly think this case boils down to someone is dead, therefore Z was guilty, stranger81 Jul 2013 #94

The Florida rule is that a man can try to rape a woman, and if she fights back geek tragedy Jul 2013 #14

No, it is not Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #22

Imagine if Trayvon Martin were a 19 year old young black woman geek tragedy Jul 2013 #29

I agree for the most part but take a look at this case Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #34

I am familiar with that case Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #62

Not even close Bake Jul 2013 #40

If she's armed. If he's armed and she's not, well then he's the geek tragedy Jul 2013 #41

if she shot him she would have been charged and convicted JI7 Jul 2013 #130

If AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #71

Wow! And it is so nice of you to share you and your wife's guilt-free willingness jmg257 Jul 2013 #91

That's why I stayed away from DU yesterday. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2013 #15

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Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #42

You might want to change the "you're an idiot" part. Dawgs Jul 2013 #67

I guess I'm "more sensitive than yourself". And 5 jurors agreed with me. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #77

Good. Dawgs Jul 2013 #95

That was satire, right??? DinahMoeHum Jul 2013 #96

People are just venting... Punkingal Jul 2013 #19

Sometimes. Igel Jul 2013 #133

thank goodness Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #23

I must plead 'mea culpa' to at least flirting with the first particular ('Eliminate the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #28

I never said eliminate self-defense laws, I said revise Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #32

where's batman? datasuspect Jul 2013 #38

And in the wake of big stories, this is different for DU how? Lex Jul 2013 #44

Don't forget eliminate Florida Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #46

You said it Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #53

If your wife resists the attack Turbineguy Jul 2013 #54

She'll need to enroll in "sniper" training post haste!... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #57

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #72

What's that? People say things when they get pissed? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #58

I accept the jury's decision over trial-by-media. Dash87 Jul 2013 #59

Not me, the verdict was predictable given the prosecution's Beacool Jul 2013 #63

DU always loses its mind over issues like this bigwillq Jul 2013 #66

I believe it would be better for 100 men to go without guns, than one innocent boy be shot. onehandle Jul 2013 #70

Don't forget the elimination of the freedom from illegal search and seizure Android3.14 Jul 2013 #75

I have too! Fear makes cowards of us all. Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #97

Are you allowed to say this? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #76

The FL law is absurd, as a juror I would have ignored the law Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #83

Don't wait on a pizza line in St. Pete HockeyMom Jul 2013 #87

Vigilante ville - Disney's latest theme park: long lines, heat, humidity, and guns. Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #100

Disney big fight with State of Florida HockeyMom Jul 2013 #120

A zone of sanity in a swamp full of gators Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #131

Irrational fear for something that has not happened HockeyMom Jul 2013 #84

+1 n/t IL Lib Jul 2013 #142

People are so upset because, although we live in the avebury Jul 2013 #85

Eliminate injustice, mzmolly Jul 2013 #89

Being armed is not assurance of the ability to get and use the weapon. Bundy, e.g., incapaci- WinkyDink Jul 2013 #90

When we all know the jury was wrong crim son Jul 2013 #98

The law was wrong ... The jury was weak Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #101

Forget it... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #103

hi, GUN NUT!! Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #102

Agree, I used to say it re: the OJ case too treestar Jul 2013 #106

all I know is G_j Jul 2013 #108

Um...someone needs to put down the pipe Rex Jul 2013 #109

I don't think you want that stuff. DevonRex Jul 2013 #122

Unarmed and unharmed over 62 years DainBramaged Jul 2013 #111

And I avoided becoming a statistic Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #116

Bravado, you have it DainBramaged Jul 2013 #117

That is what you think keeps you from being a statistic. Rex Jul 2013 #126

Only partially true Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #132

You feel empowered by that particular situation because Rex Jul 2013 #134

Your opinion Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #135

That part is true, few criminals are shot by law abiding citizens. Rex Jul 2013 #139

Interesting page Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #141

Yes. This happens EVERY time some perceived injustice occurs. closeupready Jul 2013 #112

Nope. Just turns out DUers are human. Orsino Jul 2013 #115

The jury didn't get it a little wrong, they got it disastrously wrong. Nine Jul 2013 #121

Few are making those absurd claims.. DCBob Jul 2013 #125

I think if this country had less fearful gun humpers roaming around in public SirRevolutionary Jul 2013 #127

Your wife's being armed does not guarantee a rapist or attempted rapist will suffer the consequence Iris Jul 2013 #137

DU has been doing that a lot lately. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #138