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In reply to the discussion: Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)9. Every day there is a new one. Every day.
"What no one seemed to notice. . . was the ever widening gap. . .between the government and the people. . . And it became always wider. . . the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting, it provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway . . . (it) gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about . . .and kept us so busy with continuous changes and 'crises' and so fascinated . . . by the machinations of the 'national enemies,' without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. . .
Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, 'regretted,' that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these 'little measures'. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
You don't want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined." :
From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955)
Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, 'regretted,' that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these 'little measures'. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
You don't want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined." :
From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955)
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Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
OP
True but since our rights are surrendered for us and sometimes done so covertly
TheKentuckian
Feb 2012
#4
Heh, even Saint Dennis Kucinich voted for H. J. Res. 64 which enabled warrentless wiretapping.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#16
Do you seek out negative Obama/Democrat articles or are they sent to you?
great white snark
Feb 2012
#13
Maybe he is just looking for pro-democracy and pro-civil rights articles.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2012
#15
Do you have an opinion on the article or would you rather engage in drive-by personal attacks?
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#17
What if the ACLU lost this case? Wouldn't it then become permanent as opposed to the possibility
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#18
Doesn't have anything to do with liberalism. That's besides the point anyway.
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#26
Yeah, the conservatives are going to come down hard against a warrantless wiretapping bill..
Fumesucker
Feb 2012
#45
I thought this has been litigated during the Bush era already. BTW, the White House doesn't...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#22
Remember how everyone was upset when Bush/Cheney got Republicans hired into the DOJ....
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#27
Right and the POTUS gains nothing by simply having the DOJ roll over on the case
treestar
Feb 2012
#41
Everybody knows the ACLU is jampacked with troublemaking "professional leftists".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#32
They want selective justice. If a Republican didn't challenge some despotic law...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#47