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RZM

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35. And how would that be done?
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

How do you propose altering the jury system to achieve these goals?

I swear whoever devised that pulled all those comments from DU... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #1
Another greatest hit... I think George is a bad person, but.... Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #73
BINGO! Just Saying Jul 2013 #2
Sadly, there IS less here than other places Bettie Jul 2013 #79
Not convinced "somewhat less horrific" = "much better" smartalek Jul 2013 #105
Yeah, I get it Bettie Jul 2013 #108
I'll take the center square,... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #3
What's wrong with 'the jury decided?' RZM Jul 2013 #4
ask every single civil rights activist murdered by the Klan in the Deep South geek tragedy Jul 2013 #5
But that's not what happened here RZM Jul 2013 #9
Look up. See that thing flying over your head? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10
Maybe instead of missing it RZM Jul 2013 #11
The point is that predominantly white juries have a long history of excusing geek tragedy Jul 2013 #12
Is that why the jury came up with not guilty? RZM Jul 2013 #15
Ask Trevor Dooley, who was convicted after 90 minutes of deliberations geek tragedy Jul 2013 #17
Why ask him about what the Zimmerman jury was thinking? RZM Jul 2013 #21
Yeah, completely coincidental. This is who sits on juries: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #23
Well then, that video settles it. The problem is that juries are composed of people RZM Jul 2013 #24
No, the point is that juries are given too much leeway geek tragedy Jul 2013 #27
And how would that be done? RZM Jul 2013 #35
More specific instructions with certain subjective determinations being taken out of geek tragedy Jul 2013 #39
I don't think new instructions would change that much RZM Jul 2013 #48
Jury instructions need to be more concrete to take things out of their hands. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #53
He got bingo! Just Saying Jul 2013 #76
Lol! NealK Jul 2013 #83
That would help a lot, except they don't have to withdraw Chemisse Jul 2013 #67
SYG didn't apply to Z, since he was the initiator. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #71
take race/ethnicity completely out of the equation by... smartalek Jul 2013 #102
All I can say is BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #68
lol, what did you just say? okieinpain Jul 2013 #70
Why is ANYTHING white on black always racist? And he's not even white anyway. Just an idiot. 7962 Jul 2013 #38
Racism is the only explanation as to the differing verdicts. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #40
so you think zimmerman would do the same to okieinpain Jul 2013 #72
A white kid who was whipping his ass, probably so. But proof? No 7962 Jul 2013 #80
"where are all.the marches about... ...black-on-black crime"? In Boston and NYC smartalek Jul 2013 #107
Yes, they're very effective so far, arent they? 7962 Jul 2013 #111
Actually, yes. Statistically speaking, that is exactly right. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #55
"Percentage likelyhood" clffrdjk Jul 2013 #81
What is confusing you about the likelyhood (sic) of the percentages in the chart? TalkingDog Jul 2013 #84
If had been graphed as 4 times more likely, it would be easier to accept Thor_MN Jul 2013 #88
Just how do you read it any other way than percent when no baseline is given to compare to? clffrdjk Jul 2013 #92
I'll let you read the article for yourself, maybe the FBI can explain it to you. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #94
I am glad to see you edited your post to add a base line clffrdjk Jul 2013 #96
I'm glad you are less confused now. I wasn't, so I felt no need to add explanitory text. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #98
You thought it through. I'm sure most other people have the same capacity. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #93
i would bet money on it. the whole defense was based on fear okieinpain Jul 2013 #69
+++ BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2013 #95
The defendant in this case isn't white. n/t Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #26
B-3 gollygee Jul 2013 #28
LOL!=NT Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #56
This. Wow. October Jul 2013 #85
heh. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #30
Actually, he's the one making a point here. nt LittleBlue Jul 2013 #37
well, it doesn't feel any different than if it was the Klan 60 years ago noiretextatique Jul 2013 #100
History repeats etherealtruth Jul 2013 #115
More in the sense of Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #6
Just going off of the graphic RZM Jul 2013 #8
It would be interesting to know what the jury was thinking I would understand if they never speak gordianot Jul 2013 #14
away with your facts and common sense, get thee gone Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #7
^^ G5 n/t Just Saying Jul 2013 #77
Because it's used to silence and demean people who have a problem with that decision Scootaloo Jul 2013 #18
Is that what the president meant to convey RZM Jul 2013 #19
If you haven't noticed, 313,899,999 Americans are NOT the president Scootaloo Jul 2013 #20
I don't go off of private conversations he has with his family RZM Jul 2013 #22
My point is that your "but the president...!" argument doesn't work Scootaloo Jul 2013 #25
RZM plays bingo very, very well Skittles Jul 2013 #46
It's like he's played it before.... RetroLounge Jul 2013 #50
oh you know it's a life long thing, Retro Skittles Jul 2013 #51
Is that all you have? RZM Jul 2013 #60
no, listen to this rant - ALL of it Skittles Jul 2013 #61
LOL. You folk RZM Jul 2013 #62
you did not even bother listening, did you? Skittles Jul 2013 #65
of course he didn't, he may learn something... RetroLounge Jul 2013 #74
Excellent alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #78
Zimmerman apologists billh58 Jul 2013 #54
a prediction (not, repeat, *not* a threat / promise / incitement): smartalek Jul 2013 #113
juries can and very often do make BAD DECISIONS Skittles Jul 2013 #34
Of course they do RZM Jul 2013 #41
Normal people are also racists.Many in Florida are.Many! -NT Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #57
The trial was about how the cops reacted.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #42
Finally, some sanity. russspeakeasy Jul 2013 #49
+2 ellisonz Jul 2013 #91
tell that to OJ NatBurner Jul 2013 #47
As we are quickly discovering ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #82
HUGE K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #13
looking for a debunking jollyreaper2112 Jul 2013 #16
Go back to the site you found this and ask the poster to provide proof backing up his/her post... Spazito Jul 2013 #29
I figured it was a common talking point jollyreaper2112 Jul 2013 #31
LOLOL Skittles Jul 2013 #32
yeah jollyreaper2112 Jul 2013 #33
You forgot...OH GET OVER IT. DearAbby Jul 2013 #36
They need another one about getting his gun back. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #43
if Zimmerman had targeted, stalked and killed one of THEIR loved ones Skittles Jul 2013 #44
+1000 skeewee08 Jul 2013 #52
You act as if somehow this is the only tragedy Chico Man Jul 2013 #89
You seriously must have taken a LONG break from this site... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #104
Wow. Hit 'em all. byronius Jul 2013 #45
There's a logical explanation for no blood on Trayvon's hands, even though Zim "beaten to pulp"! ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #58
how about "WERE YOU THEREEEE"??????????? JI7 Jul 2013 #59
correct; it's like they are saying they WERE there Skittles Jul 2013 #66
OMG, I know. It's all over THIS thread already! /nt October Jul 2013 #86
zomg, it's the Grand Unified Theorem for wingers of all flavors! smartalek Jul 2013 #109
god, how did I ever forget that one? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #112
Missing: "Black culture is to blame for Trayvon's death" noamnety Jul 2013 #63
Consistency -- and intellectual integrity in general -- are not the wingers' forté. smartalek Jul 2013 #116
They left out JoeyT Jul 2013 #64
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #75
kick...this needs to be pinned to the top, if just for a week.... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #87
Yes because we can all agree Chico Man Jul 2013 #90
So which caused MORE racial discord? The satirical graphic? or Zim's acquittal itself? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #103
The apologists have bingo card excuses for everything and everyone. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #97
If they didn't have their talking points from Fox, Rush, etc, smartalek Jul 2013 #114
You forgot "The media is fanning all of the racial flames!" - this one is bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #99
Missing: "why don't u care about black-on-black violence, huh? HUH?" smartalek Jul 2013 #101
The RW trolls have been pushing this one big-time as well! bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #106
It's an oldie as well Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #110
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