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DesertFlower

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75. i had an e-mail argument with a friend the other night.

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:09 PM

Jul 2013

i told her that black people are now afraid to let their children out. i was watching joy-ann reid and melissa harris perry talk. she couldn't understand it. she's originally from rochester, NY -- said she worked with black people. well i'm from NYC and not only worked with black people but had black friends. i was friendly with my black co-workers. i'm still in touch with one and we haven't seen each other since '88. she always used to say back in the 80's "i worry about my boys being black". she had 2 teenage boys. i feel my experience with black people gives me a different insight. listening to this juror almost reminds me of my friend. how much interaction did these jurors have with black people? how well did they understand them? are they aware that black men are profiled all the time? i think the jury should have had at least 3 black people on it. on the other hand i have another friend who still lives in NYC who is appalled as i am with the verdict.

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Juror Speaking Out on Anderson Cooper 360 [View all] erpowers Jul 2013 OP

Says Serino's testimony that he felt Z was being truthful had a BIG impact on her Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #1

Missed the beginning, but AC says the jury was split at first... Chiyo-chichi Jul 2013 #2

but all had weekend plans Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #7

Ugh. I didn't hear that part. Weekend plans? Chiyo-chichi Jul 2013 #9

I was being sarcastic Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #11

Yep, big jump from murder2 to not guilty. nt alsame Jul 2013 #28

Indeed. Chiyo-chichi Jul 2013 #36

really after 11 hours? dsc Jul 2013 #59

Yeah I have had an 11 hour meeting before Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #104

Hmmm..... wonder who or what caused them to change their minds? femmocrat Jul 2013 #12

I thought that would be a strong possibility also. dkf Jul 2013 #30

She said the way the jury instructions read they had to narrow it to the moments right before the Tx4obama Jul 2013 #58

admitting her COMPLETE IGNORANCE of the charges- yet she wants to write a book, UGH. bettyellen Jul 2013 #70

they wanted to go home TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #119

She felt from the start of deliberations that he was not guilty. nt femmocrat Jul 2013 #34

Based on "heat of the moment" and "Stand Your Ground", he had a right to defend himself. femmocrat Jul 2013 #43

I thought that the defense didn't cite Stand Your Ground. yardwork Jul 2013 #79

The Judge did in her jury instructions... Spazito Jul 2013 #103

The judge told them to only disregard one part ceonupe Jul 2013 #3

And that is precisely the point AC asked her about Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #8

You can't unring a bell Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #14

It was the state choice to have ceonupe Jul 2013 #19

He won 3 people over. It just didn't stick when they studied the facts. dkf Jul 2013 #33

Not the "facts" per se. She just said that they reviewed the law. femmocrat Jul 2013 #50

But it wasn't...that point should have been driven home VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #54

she said they were completely CONFUSED by the manslaughter charge. they decided anyway- bettyellen Jul 2013 #69

Am I the only one that finds that jaw dropping? n/t BronxBoy Jul 2013 #77

I'm not surprised at all. To reach that verdict I knew that they had to be racist and stupid. yardwork Jul 2013 #81

no. i do too. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #82

I sort of halfway admonished a poster for calling the jury idiots yesterday... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #88

she called them (TM + Rachel) "those people". I want to hurl!!! BTW.... bettyellen Jul 2013 #89

Soundview Area n/t BronxBoy Jul 2013 #90

The 6 !!! I was between St Lawrence and Pkchester, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2013 #91

Ward Avenue..Then St. Lawrence... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #95

There used to be a theater on Ward Avenue in the 1950's- my Mom worked there. bettyellen Jul 2013 #101

Wonderful. What an absolute travesty. anneboleyn Jul 2013 #113

She is a stupid dumbass. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2013 #4

definitely BainsBane Jul 2013 #10

She believes everything Zimmy said through his lying teeth. femmocrat Jul 2013 #16

Trayvon is on the phone carrying skittles and iced tea Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #25

I guess that makes sense noamnety Jul 2013 #102

"if they were instructed to ignore the part of the fight where zimmerman started the fight." IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #128

more details please Beaverhausen Jul 2013 #5

One of the Juror's is Speaking Out erpowers Jul 2013 #18

If it is Juror B37, she sure lost her utter contempt for the media in amazingly short order... Spazito Jul 2013 #47

Juror B37 erpowers Jul 2013 #93

I figured as much, seeing as she has a book she wants to sell... Spazito Jul 2013 #98

If it's B37, she also called Trayvon a "boy of color" and will be writing a book pokerfan Jul 2013 #94

Yep, all kinds of questions arise in my mind regarding this juror... Spazito Jul 2013 #100

She appears to be the first one willing to cash in on the experience pokerfan Jul 2013 #112

Having immediate access to "a high ranking producer at one of the morning shows" Spazito Jul 2013 #115

Said they all believed it was alsame Jul 2013 #6

That's the problem. BellaKos Jul 2013 #126

She just said she believes Zimmerman "has a good heart". Ugh. octoberlib Jul 2013 #13

This one bought the alsame Jul 2013 #17

She doesn't believe race played a role. Jury never discussed it, she said. femmocrat Jul 2013 #24

So it was okay, "self defense" to shoot him (sarcasm alert) anneboleyn Jul 2013 #42

Exactly. She believed it was self-defense and Zimmy feared for his life. femmocrat Jul 2013 #64

and the POS didn't even take the stand to say it himself. nt Lex Jul 2013 #72

the lawyers were on "the view" this morning. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #86

Fuck! ... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #83

Yep, Zimmerman's “heart was in the right place” pokerfan Jul 2013 #118

Zimmerman juror on Anderson Cooper 360 is clearly a MORON etherealtruth Jul 2013 #15

Yep. Chiyo-chichi Jul 2013 #21

Jesus Christ, doesn't believe GZ racially alsame Jul 2013 #20

Wasn't the defense actually making the case that Zimmy racially profiled him? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #27

They didn't say 'racially profiled' but alsame Jul 2013 #73

They're not the same thing. Igel Jul 2013 #120

She did not use the term Hispanic azmom Jul 2013 #130

You're right. nt alsame Jul 2013 #131

Juror is even more repulusive than I feared, what a DUMB ASS HOLE!!! nt Raine Jul 2013 #22

when does she start on Fux & Friends olddots Jul 2013 #23

I had to turn it off, she's going on about what alsame Jul 2013 #26

Anyone listening to the 911 tape can see he was a cop wannabe who used rotten judgement. Sickening. RBInMaine Jul 2013 #40

She just said Zimmerman had a right to defend himself. Sickened. I'm turning it off too. nt octoberlib Jul 2013 #41

i missed the first few minutes but i have it on now. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #29

HOW IN THE FUCK does she know if he is a GOOD man or not? Very depressing mockery of the jury system anneboleyn Jul 2013 #38

i agree. she also said george had DesertFlower Jul 2013 #52

That's the problem with racism today laundry_queen Jul 2013 #65

i had an e-mail argument with a friend the other night. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #75

Depending on where she is from JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #105

i think you're right. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #110

Anderson never asked her that or any tough questions. skeewee08 Jul 2013 #71

yet she isn't so sure she wants him on HER neighborhood watch. good man- he didn;t need to call his bettyellen Jul 2013 #63

Because they weren't allowed to hear that he called 911 46 times to report a "suspicious black male" VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #60

Do juries decide by "which story I like better" logic? anneboleyn Jul 2013 #31

I must be watching a different juror than all of you. newcriminal Jul 2013 #32

The way that you are listening and learning instead of insulting our intelligence? notadmblnd Jul 2013 #39

I didn't say any of you were "morons" "stupid dumbass" "repulsive" newcriminal Jul 2013 #49

I didn't accuse you of calling us names. I said you were not listening and learning notadmblnd Jul 2013 #67

That is not going against jury instructions. newcriminal Jul 2013 #74

See? You wern't listening. I did not say she disregarded by believing he was innocent notadmblnd Jul 2013 #80

I don't play childish games on here. newcriminal Jul 2013 #96

They are two completely different statements. notadmblnd Jul 2013 #106

She's out of her fucking mind when she says race had nothing to do with the incident Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #124

M O N E Y! M O N E Y! M O N E Y! madashelltoo Jul 2013 #35

Is she the one that already has a book deal? notadmblnd Jul 2013 #37

She is B 37. Is she the same one? femmocrat Jul 2013 #45

Yes, she is notadmblnd Jul 2013 #48

I believe so cal04 Jul 2013 #46

she said her husband is an attorney and DesertFlower Jul 2013 #78

Her husband's an attorney? Wouldn't that normally keep her off a jury? yardwork Jul 2013 #85

No, why should it? newcriminal Jul 2013 #97

A lot of lawyers will get other lawyers and cops Just Saying Jul 2013 #108

it usually does, yes steve2470 Jul 2013 #117

it should TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #122

I smell a rat. yardwork Jul 2013 #123

I said in another post that I really think she might have been TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #125

And this, folks, is what jury nullification looks like. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #44

I've never heard a lead detective testify that he supported the defendent. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #109

Because the Sanford PD had alsame Jul 2013 #111

In the interview she said: "... how THOSE people live ..." Tx4obama Jul 2013 #51

Wait, wuh? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #56

When Anderson Cooper asked her about... Tx4obama Jul 2013 #62

"those people" Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #66

"those people" - it's "how they live" like going out at 7 PM. The NERVE!! What a horrible woman. bettyellen Jul 2013 #76

You know... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #68

Oh cripes. Now she is crying. femmocrat Jul 2013 #53

Anderson asked her if she is scared now. femmocrat Jul 2013 #57

Now she is feeling sorry madaboutharry Jul 2013 #55

SYG? SYG?!??!?!? WTF- she was looking for reasons to let him off. bettyellen Jul 2013 #61

That's what a jury is supposed to do...hunt for reasonable doubt davidn3600 Jul 2013 #92

not when the judge tells them it;s not to be considered (Serino testimony) or not the defense bettyellen Jul 2013 #99

Why didn't she take her 15 minutes with Sean Hannity... SeaLyons Jul 2013 #84

CNN is paying better Redford Jul 2013 #116

CNN Not Paying erpowers Jul 2013 #129

Yay Florida Amaya Jul 2013 #87

Again, I will offer that the prosecutors failed miserably during voir dire (interviews) Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #107

Zimmerman had a right to defend himself????? brettdale Jul 2013 #114

Simplistic and gullible Awsi Dooger Jul 2013 #121

I have seen guys like Zimmy in my world and I think your scenario is exactly correct Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #127