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Yo_Mama

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69. The prosecution put on a bad case.

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:06 PM

Jul 2013

They had to do everything just right, admittedly, but they could have done a much better job.

They also should have focused their theory on the manslaughter conviction, and I believe they could have gotten it.

I think if they had structured their case right they could have got culpable negligent manslaughter instructions in the jury charge, and that would have given the jury what they needed to convict.

Because - and I didn't even watch the whole trial, or even that much of it - Martin's account just doesn't hold up at points. I don't believe him. I don't think the jurors believed him entirely. The cops did not believe him entirely.

The one witness who said she heard an interchange should have been enough to close it for the prosecution if they had handled it differently.

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What is your opinion of the jurors in the Zimmerman case? [View all] Nye Bevan Jul 2013 OP

I think they had a reasonable doubt Gman Jul 2013 #1

Without the 'boy of color's' testimony, what could they do? leftstreet Jul 2013 #2

Again, I'm not sure that "boy of color" is so offensive. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #4

She knows EXACTLY what is/isn't offensive leftstreet Jul 2013 #5

wait, what? Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #7

She KNOWS what isn't offensive. Chose not to use it n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #11

Thanks for the clarification. n.t. Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #21

I think you're right. She was probably trying to avoid being offensive notadmblnd Jul 2013 #54

At least one of them is racist and stupid Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #3

I have to give them a bit of respect for even serving on that jury HolyMoley Jul 2013 #6

I hope they stay safe. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #12

Why would anyone retaliate? HolyMoley Jul 2013 #23

I can't believe the absolute hatred for these people. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #29

The 6 that served didn't ask to be there HolyMoley Jul 2013 #37

I don't doubt that you're right. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #40

Anyone, ANYONE HolyMoley Jul 2013 #45

Well...just look at them: Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #8

That made me guffaw. Apophis Jul 2013 #15

Which one is Paula Deen? n/t npk Jul 2013 #20

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #9

Oh? Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #14

The jurors appear to be incapable of putting themselves into the shoes of Treyvon's parents. JEB Jul 2013 #31

So.... are you advocating, or just wishing Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #33

Until people can put themselves in the shoes of Treyvon's parents JEB Jul 2013 #36

And people here? Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #42

Naw, every thing is hunky dory. JEB Jul 2013 #43

There will be a few people here glad to hear it. Fla_Democrat Jul 2013 #44

Being a juror pipi_k Jul 2013 #49

That is one SICK comment. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #18

The act of killing a child is sick. JEB Jul 2013 #38

That's pretty offensive. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #19

What is offensive is a child has been shot dead and noone is held accountable. JEB Jul 2013 #22

That's pretty sick Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #30

What did Treyvon's parents do? JEB Jul 2013 #35

Shooting someone else's kids would somehow make that right? Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #39

I am relieved to hear that you think Treyvon's death is bad. JEB Jul 2013 #41

The prosecution put on a bad case. Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #69

I get what you are trying to say.... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #47

these 6 women sure didn't seem like the smartest folks around quinnox Jul 2013 #10

Racist and stupid. Apophis Jul 2013 #13

Wow...she did not do herself any good, did she? Evergreen Emerald Jul 2013 #17

I have to go with racist and stupid... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #16

from this one- considering SYG when deciding- thinking it happened very late at night as if TM bettyellen Jul 2013 #24

apparently, to get an 'unbiased jury' , they had to chose the dumbest fuckers in the county. KG Jul 2013 #25

I heard one report that mentioned that when the jury came back into the courtroom, Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #26

That's what I thought.... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #48

I didn't see the interview. Was she speaking only for herself, Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #57

Except for the one who is going to write the book Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #27

Probably racist and stupid. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #28

Colored Boy and Riots JI7 Jul 2013 #32

at least that one is a RAcist Piece of Shit JI7 Jul 2013 #34

I don't have enough information to form an opinion at this point. JVS Jul 2013 #46

Based on B37 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #50

Why do the other five need to come forward? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #53

Because OP JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #55

You stated that the other five jurors need to come forward. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #58

No JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #59

i don't feel your words are threatening. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #62

If you say so JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #70

So stupid they don't know they are racist NoOneMan Jul 2013 #51

I have lived in the south for over 40 years. Believe it or not Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #61

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that NoOneMan Jul 2013 #65

Save for the one with a possible book deal, I try to have no opinion on the jurors themselves Scootaloo Jul 2013 #52

+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #56

Racist and stupid dominated the jury room in the end. Kudos to the 3 who voted to convict DevonRex Jul 2013 #60

awesome people who did the right thing! Vattel Jul 2013 #63

Probably stupid, racist Republicans nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #64

They thought Zimmerman's story was credible killbotfactory Jul 2013 #66

The correct technical term is "dumber'n a bag o'hammers" n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #67

Generally confused and frustrated fadedrose Jul 2013 #68

I'm going to pass davidpdx Jul 2013 #71

After watching the B-37 interview, I have no doubt. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #72