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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:35 AM Jul 2013

And I just blew my stack at an old friend about the Zimmerman case. [View all]

My old friend is a Libertarian. He was a "Reagan Republican" but recovered during the Bush years (who he hated). He is an equal opportunity politician hater, if you know the type. He is a good guy, and he delights in intellectual arguments. We've clashed before -- we do NOT discuss guns -- and we've been on the same side about a lot of other stuff, with abortion and gay rights being top on the list.

Today he posted an idiotic facebook thing about "Trayvon Martin" versus "Marley Lion": both 17 year old teens killed while engaging in innocent activity by opposite race men.

Trayvon is black. Marley is white.

The facebook thing stated Marley didn't get any press coverage, and asked "what's the difference?" with the clear implication race was the issue. My old friend then followed up the discussion with comments about how liberals weren't outraged over Marley, and MSNBC talking heads didn't cry, and how the President didn't talk about Marley (while he talked about Trayvon).

And I blew my stack BIG TIME.

I found two articles without even trying (blunt lie about no media coverage right off the bat) about how the police were actively pursing the murder of Marley (as opposed to treating Trayvon like he deserved it) and posted this

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/18829994/he-was-a
"Chief Mullen said that while they know Lion was at a house party earlier in the night and apparently drinking, that is not their focus as of now. He says they are doing everything they can in the police agency to solve the murder of the recent Academic Magnet graduate and bring the shooter to justice."


and pointed out the DIFFERENCE in reaction to the black boy ("deserved it" and Zimmerman hailed as a hero to some) while the white boy had police wanting to "bring the shooter to justice".

I got madder, especially after I found this:

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2012/07/31/four-arrested-in-marley-lion-murder
"Charleston police have arrested four people in connection with the June 16 shooting of 17-year-old Marley Lion in a West Ashley parking lot. The arrests came Monday after a six-week investigation that involved surveillance video enhancement from the Secret Service and an undercover gun-buying operation with help from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives."


I told my old friend if he didn't understand the difference in the two cases, he was part of the problem. That it was PURE RACISM, and his little picture trying to pretend the two were the same was insulting as all hell. And I told him to back off.

We were both typing so quickly, we probably didn't even have time to respond to each other before the next comment was made. He really felt the two were the same, and then he said Trayvon was a criminal when he started bashing Zimmerman's head into the cement, and I said I believed Zimmerman had the gun out already, which meant Trayvon was defending himself, which is what DECENT people believe, and I wasn't going to tolerate RACISM on my page.

For the record, my old friend has NEVER displayed a racist temperament EVER. For him, I really think he was just indulging in an intellectual exercise, and not understanding just how much of a BEYOND push button issue this is for me. Plus, Zimmerman was found "not guilty" so Trayvon must have deserved it, right?

I'm white. I am so freaking white, I practically glow in the dark. But I have a "mixed" nephew who is 15 years old, and a "mixed" niece who is 8, and I love them, and if Zimmerman had killed one of them, the trial would be mine because I would kill that son-of-a-bitch in a heart beat, and then dance on his blood splattered body while cursing his name to the heavens.

And yes, I know that isn't a nice thing to say, and I pray for the love of all that is holy I *NEVER* have to deal with this type of a situation, but you kill a kid - MY KID - and you god damned DESERVE the crazy.

Trayvon could have been my family member. I am still in mourning about this. Hell, I am still in mourning for a list of children this country seems to have mostly forgotten who went to kindergarten one morning, and never came home because they were in body bags by the end of the day, but that perpetrator is dead. Trayvon's killer is still at large, and this MATTERS because he wasn't the first, and he isn't even the last.

Something has to change.

As a society, we have made a bargain: I give up my right to a blood feud, and my community ensures justice on behalf of me and my loved ones. I am not as strong as a man - it is a reality - and I am not a violent person (despite the imagery I invoke in hyperbole). If I had to kill the meat I eat, I would be a vegetarian; yes, I know it is hypocritical, but welcome to my world. I have to trust the system.

When the system fails, it has to be fixed.

Pretending a dead white boy whose killers will be sent to jail is the same as a dead black boy whose killer is being hailed as a hero are the same thing -- it offends my sense of honor because it is a lie.

They were both boys. Neither should be dead. Both should have justice.

And it shouldn't happen to another child.

But we all know it will.

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Hold tight JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #1
K&R! Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #2
K & R wicket Jul 2013 #3
Awesome Rant! Spot On! onpatrol98 Jul 2013 #4
"attacks on white people don't ever get press coverage"--that was from the Paul Riposte in *1990*! MisterP Jul 2013 #5
yep heaven05 Jul 2013 #6
You're right. The double standard of effort IS based on a lie. Maybe he could acknowledge ancianita Jul 2013 #7
Another example was group of black men who killed TN couple SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #8
Bigots gonna be bigots. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #10
And perhaps you should. JoeyT Jul 2013 #11
Juror #6 reporting. Orrex Jul 2013 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #15
Hey, welcome to DU! Orrex Jul 2013 #16
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To a large degree, my thoughts match yours LearningCurve Jul 2013 #19
Alright, I'm not going to call you a racist. JoeyT Jul 2013 #21
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Since when is Zimmerman white? LearningCurve Jul 2013 #18
Since he killed a black kid. JoeyT Jul 2013 #22
Everyone in my neighborhood would be shocked to hear Zimmerman is "white" LearningCurve Jul 2013 #27
he's half white...is that better? noiretextatique Jul 2013 #35
Neither better or worse LearningCurve Jul 2013 #37
Considering Zimmy's diddy was a cracker judge in rural Florida.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #38
racism makes for strange bedfellows noiretextatique Jul 2013 #42
I don't know any Zimmerman supporters LearningCurve Jul 2013 #43
NOT just like Obama. Obama's mama didn't teach him to hate. nt Tigress DEM Jul 2013 #40
i stand corrected noiretextatique Jul 2013 #41
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He's a light skinned half Peruvian in Florida. Tigress DEM Jul 2013 #39
Um. Welcome to DU Paulie Jul 2013 #12
I remember when I did my first post on DU. FourScore Jul 2013 #17
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Oh, yeah, welcome to DU! OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #25
Edit: Rather than hello, it's "good-bye" purplereign... OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #24
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I feel you. JoeyT Jul 2013 #13
5 star rant, Ida Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #26
self-delete. Poor choice on my part... OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #28
once again to be a zimmerman okieinpain Jul 2013 #31
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pretense and convoluted thinking are hallmarks of the racially offended noiretextatique Jul 2013 #34
+1 Blue_Roses Jul 2013 #36
same thing happened to me.... Scout Jul 2013 #44
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