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PsychGrad

(239 posts)
38. Thing is -
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jul 2013

even within the white community (which I belong to), there is a breakdown of hiearchy of "worthy" vs. "non-worthy". I am an Atheist and get SO much shit for that from my fellow white folks. I am also a very liberal liberal - get tons of shit for that too. Because, many of my fellow Caucasians feel like I'm a traitor to them, and to "our" race. I have experienced hate crimes based on religious beliefs (if that's a hate crime?) and based on my friendships and love for family members who are gay/lesbian/black/whatever. Especially in the white world - if you are not middle class, racist, christian, and conservative - well, you just don't belong.

Don't get me wrong, as a blonde hair blue eyed female, I KNOW I've got it pretty easy - on the outside, I "pass" - until they get to know my beliefs and such, I "pass". I can blend in when I need/want to, or stand out by opening my mouth - but in my day to day - I don't get harassed just for existing. But there always comes that moment - when it's all white folks - and someone assumes that we are all christian/racist/etc. and starts in on something - using the word "nigger" or bagging on the heathens that don't believe in god - that moment when it becomes VERY apparent to them that I am NOT one of them.

I have currently lost about 3 friends on FB due to this - and I'm okay with that (one family member too). I have decided that family or not, friend of 20 years or not - fuck them. This was WRONG, I know it to the core of my being. I will not be convinced otherwise, I will not be "open minded" about hatred/racism/stupidity or be loyal to others simply bc we share blood or skin color. I will go through the loss of friends/family again - bc right is right, and wrong is wrong.

I do often fear that I will be harasses or harmed (they carry a LOT of guns here) or my house or car will be vandalized - simply bc I voted for Obama (twice!), speak out, have friends of all ethnicities, colors, sexual orientations, beliefs, etc. We DO have hate crimes committed against us at times - it isn't as rampant, of course, but it does happen. Usually, it is probably just being ostracized, but to say it never happens, or "rarely" happens, is not quite accurate I don't think.

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K&R! Thank you. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #1
Well said maddezmom Jul 2013 #2
also this literally just happened. the fact that it happened should shock people out of their belief La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #3
it happened over 15 months ago hfojvt Jul 2013 #70
That it is...a huge deal. Skidmore Jul 2013 #4
It is a huge deal Hydra Jul 2013 #8
yeah i was just discussing this with someone: multiple things happened very close together La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #49
and this is only one case...think about the thousands of cases that have had no national media HipChick Jul 2013 #5
I've been listening to two average dumb white guys at work Orrex Jul 2013 #6
any social scientist will tell you that multiple experiments show La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #9
Yes indeed Orrex Jul 2013 #10
If trayvon had been a white child, zimmerman would become a hispanic in their eyes,probably illegal DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #12
That's what I said! Exactly!! Zimmerman identifies as white, but rest Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #15
he, heaven05 Jul 2013 #37
Great points Orrex Jul 2013 #16
I've heard that too... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #34
That's because they don't want to admit that they are racist justiceischeap Jul 2013 #23
k&r Little Star Jul 2013 #7
DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #11
Sometimes CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #13
exactly my point. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #26
They want us to be sensitive to the needs of women, of the LGBT community, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #14
i am not sure who this they is, but i think its fair to say that all these oppressed groups deserve La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #27
Thank You !!!! Exactly lunasun Jul 2013 #17
How can anyone assume they will never be the victim of a hate crime? dkf Jul 2013 #18
there is no cultural hatred of whites and straight people La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #25
Seems like it is escalating on all sides. dkf Jul 2013 #28
really? what does that mean? has there been a rise in hate crimes towards straight white men? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #31
try heaven05 Jul 2013 #39
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #51
+2 noiretextatique Jul 2013 #55
Why don't you show us some statistics of the escalating attacks on straight people by gays? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2013 #33
Thing is - PsychGrad Jul 2013 #38
you heaven05 Jul 2013 #40
Agreed - not racism. PsychGrad Jul 2013 #43
thanks heaven05 Jul 2013 #45
And one has to be concerned about snow in the Sahara too... jtuck004 Jul 2013 #35
you win this thread La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #46
For me, the biggest issue was the way the Sanford police handled this from the get go dbackjon Jul 2013 #19
Well said! nt avebury Jul 2013 #20
I don't think anyone is saying it is unimportant dsc Jul 2013 #21
would you have said this had this been a young gay boy being killed unnecessarily La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #24
yes dsc Jul 2013 #36
I don't heaven05 Jul 2013 #41
I can't imagine, short of say a political assassination or the death of a current leader dsc Jul 2013 #50
depends heaven05 Jul 2013 #52
there is a whole bunch of difference between dsc Jul 2013 #53
okay heaven05 Jul 2013 #54
30 minutes...max noiretextatique Jul 2013 #56
10-4 heaven05 Jul 2013 #60
Kind of blows your mind, doesn't it? Number23 Jul 2013 #62
yeah half the news show dsc Jul 2013 #65
why don't you write them? noiretextatique Jul 2013 #68
I wouldn't necessarily call it more relevent dsc Jul 2013 #69
btw 5400 seconds isn't only 30 minuted dsc Jul 2013 #66
I heaven05 Jul 2013 #63
i was not trying to be dishonest about Rachel, i just read your statement incorrectly. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Number23 Jul 2013 #61
Well said! Spazito Jul 2013 #22
Yes. K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #29
I think it should be a big deal for all of us. Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #30
I think this is it... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #42
Go LP. Iggo Jul 2013 #32
You know the trial entered the significant phase nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #44
Some here have no empathy for anyone else. Rex Jul 2013 #47
That needed to be said. lpbk2713 Jul 2013 #57
Great post. Totally spot on. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #58
Thanks for the perspective. nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #59
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #64
Of the 8000 or so blacks murdered each year, 93% are murdered by other blacks. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #67
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