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In reply to the discussion: David Sirota: Obama is George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin is Al-Awlaki. [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)113. Here's his skis over the shark's fin
On the contrary, Zimmermans presumption of guilt and his subsequent actions mimic those of his own government, and therefore reflect a larger attitudinal shift in the nation at large.
Remember, in the same year that saw Zimmerman kill Martin, Zimmermans president, Barack Obama, extra-judicially executed Anwar al-Awlaki and then his 16-year-old son, without charging either of the two U.S. citizens with a single crime. The two were simply presumed guilty, without any evidence being officially marshaled against them. Not only that, such a presumption wasnt hidden from view in shame, as if it was something to be embarrassed about. Instead, Obama openly touted the extra-judicial killing of the father and then his spokesman haughtily justified the extra-judicial killing of the child.
Explaining the Zimmerman-like aggression against the Awlakis and thousands of others who find themselves targeted by U.S. drone strike missiles, the federal government later offered up the Zimmerman Principle, repeating the same sentiment that Zimmerman expressed during his cellphone call to non-emergency responders.
Remember, in the same year that saw Zimmerman kill Martin, Zimmermans president, Barack Obama, extra-judicially executed Anwar al-Awlaki and then his 16-year-old son, without charging either of the two U.S. citizens with a single crime. The two were simply presumed guilty, without any evidence being officially marshaled against them. Not only that, such a presumption wasnt hidden from view in shame, as if it was something to be embarrassed about. Instead, Obama openly touted the extra-judicial killing of the father and then his spokesman haughtily justified the extra-judicial killing of the child.
Explaining the Zimmerman-like aggression against the Awlakis and thousands of others who find themselves targeted by U.S. drone strike missiles, the federal government later offered up the Zimmerman Principle, repeating the same sentiment that Zimmerman expressed during his cellphone call to non-emergency responders.
Except for that part where what happened to Trayvon was part of a 400 year old pattern, and that Al Awlaki was a sworn enemy of the United States, having affiliated himself with a group launching armed attacks against the United States.
Only in Sirotaworld is actively joining the ranks of Al Qaeda the same as carrying Skittles.
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David Sirota: Obama is George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin is Al-Awlaki. [View all]
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
OP
They're either unhinged or they try to outdo each other's cretinous behavior. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#4
Racial dirty tricks in the Philly mayoral--another firing of Sirota. We here in Philly remember
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#144
Here in Philly, we remember when he was fired for racial dirty tricks during the mayoral race.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#141
It sounds like you have a valid subject for discussion. I am not claiming to agree with what
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#82
Don't you laugh when certain posters on this board claim they are "FDR Democrats?" nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#90
That's the gist of it. Regardless of how someone feels about drones...
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#13
This thread is a great example of posters with no substance but only ad hominem comments that
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#20
That's the usual rationalization of those that are afraid to venture out and have
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#42
Okay, how in your open mind is Trayvon Martin similar to Anwar Al Awlaki? nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#47
I would love to discuss this issue, but not with someone that isnt interested in anything
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#61
I read what Sirota wrote. He claimed that Zimmerman was to Martin as Obama was to Al Awlaki.
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#71
I read his article. And it was every bit as ODS-soaked as it's being portrayed.
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#94
It was all the free stuff we got, according to Mitt--like phones and welfare. We don't need jobs!!!
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#35
It's always the people that feel the need to reaffirm their leftiness in their usernames. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#38
So now you're plagiarizing Mitt Romney's 47% speech for your trashy insults.
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#37
I would be glad to discuss what he said but not with those that clearly find rationalizations to
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#50
It had to be said, as it's rather ironic, at best, for him to do what he whined about.
DevonRex
Jul 2013
#163
Trayvon Martin wasn't declared a terrorist by the UN. Awlaki was. End of discussion, and Sirota
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#28
Try reading Sirota's actual column...He calls the killing of Awlaki SENIOR 'extrajudicial.' Try
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#111
No. You don't get to compare Trayvon Martin to a UN-designated terrorist and then pretend you have
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#137
Awlaki was--and that's who Sirota mentioned first. And Sirota, who was fired for racial dirty tricks
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#142
Tell ya' what. The day Trayvon Martin's family decides to have that discussion, I'm there. Until
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#147
Yeah--you are using people to "make a point." Sirota likened a UN designated terrorist to Trayvon
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#154
Again, I don't care what Sirota said, or about any other red herring you're introducing.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jul 2013
#162
Right--because using Trayvon Martin as a point of discussion in a lunatic ODS rant is classy. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#168
I'm talking about the fact that his father brought him there and allowed himself and his son to be
Galraedia
Jul 2013
#195
So every child that is brought to or lives in whatever "warzone" has been designated by the US
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#198
Some would think that Trayvon shouldn't have been in a white neighborhood.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jul 2013
#200
Sirota's got integrity. Here's what he wrote re Tim Geithner vs Elizabeth Warren
Octafish
Jul 2013
#27
"Sirota's got integrity." So you agree with the fucked up comparison he just made? n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#29
Why don't you quote the rest of what I wrote, ProSense? Taking things out of context is sad.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#41
You must have trouble with parallel structure. Some minds can't adapt. No problem.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#157
An excellent reporter wouldn't write that America is discarding "old ideals" about the presumption
onenote
Jul 2013
#76
No one is "requiring" him to do anything. However, I'll reserve the label "excellent" reporter
onenote
Jul 2013
#118
Sirota just compared a dead 17-year old the equivalent of a UN-named terrorist. He just shit on his
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#31
So after claiming I quoted you out of context, you're agreeing with the comparison?
ProSense
Jul 2013
#64
Oh please. Sirota's comparison is lunatic, and your attempt at deflection is lame. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#83
Yes. You can fucking say what you want, ProSense. The OP can say whatever he or she wants.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#150
Anwar Awlaki was not 16. He was a grown man, subject to the AUMF of 9/18/2001. His son was
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#68
Got a link for that? The president sent a drone to kill an American citizen without trial.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#74
Nowhere in that article does it state what law gives Obama the authority to kill Americans.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#131
Here's a PDF. Nowhere in that does it say the President can kill Americans without trial.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#138
Under the War Powers Resolution, enemy combatants can indeed be killed without trial.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#151
Where in the War Powers Resolution does it say the president can kill Americans without trial?
Octafish
Jul 2013
#169
First, you keep saying 'American citizen' as if this means that Americans are entitled to rights
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#180
That's your term. I explained why I chose that article as an example of Sirota's work.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#171
Anyone not rushing to condemn Sirota for these comments are highly suspect
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#44
"Highly suspect" of having open minds. Rushing to condemn isnt a characteristic that
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#54
You were just asked legitimate questions about the analogy and refuse to answer them.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#98
Ad hominem! 1984! Obama's evil! This is not about Obama! Where's my meds? nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#107
Plez. "where he blames Obama for innocent black people getting killed by white racists? "
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#112
He didnt say, "he blames Obama for innocent black people getting killed by white racists".
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#116
It's the people who collapse into convulsions of pure rage every time they
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#84
You're here bashing everyone in sight taking issue with Sirota's Obama-hating nuttiness.
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#65
Right--because comparing a dead 17-year old who did nothing wrong to a UN-designated terrorist is
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#57
And I have the free speech to compare Sirota to Juror B37--both using the corpse of Trayvon Martin
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#72
And we have a free speech right to call him an idiot if he's earned it. nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#80
Absolutely stupid comparison. In addition, it is insulting for Trayvon Martin that is compared to a
Mass
Jul 2013
#170
I'm sure many here would prefer Cesca's dishonest characterization of Sirota's words
MNBrewer
Jul 2013
#178
That's some serious ODS, of the Stand-with-Rand Obama-is-worse-than-Bush variety
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#194