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longship

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26. "Including vaccines"? Nope, and likely not environmental either.

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:13 PM

Jul 2013

Although it's difficult to eliminate all environmental influences, just as a matter of practice.

But I have to repeat, yet again, that the vaccine autism link does not exist. And it is also very unlikely to be environmental links either, but as I indicated, that's more difficult because in science one has to isolate variables and that is difficult or impossible to do for all environmental parameters at once.

The medical research, AFAIK, shows that autism is likely a congenital condition, not environmental, but that is less certain than the exclusion of vaccines as a cause, which is as firm as just about anything.

Again. There is a zero vaccine autism link. And this has been well known for some years now. Those who say otherwise either have an anti-vaccine agenda or are ignorant of the science.

Thanks for your response.

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Imho DUgosh Jul 2013 #1

But McCarthy's claims have a body count. longship Jul 2013 #2

Anyone who takes child rearing advice from Jenny McCarthy SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #8

That doesn't explain the strength of the anti-vaccine movement. longship Jul 2013 #9

But isn't that a problem with them not her? SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #10

I cannot agree that it's their problem. longship Jul 2013 #14

It's a very important issue, but Jenny McCarthy is not closeupready Jul 2013 #22

I agree. And she's not pushing those views anymore -- she changed her mind several years ago. pnwmom Jul 2013 #48

Did she? I wasn't aware of that. So much the better. closeupready Jul 2013 #49

There is nothing "insane" about the idea that vaccines cause autism. It's an idea that's been live love laugh Jul 2013 #13

McCarthy is profoundly ignorant and wrong about vaccines. nt longship Jul 2013 #15

She has actually changed her views about vaccines. pnwmom Jul 2013 #47

I'll believe it when she recants. longship Jul 2013 #51

She has said she no longer thinks the vaccines caused her son's autism. That is recanting. pnwmom Jul 2013 #52

Let her use her time on The View to recant. longship Jul 2013 #53

She wasn't an idiot. She saw a healthy son get terribly ill from his vaccinations pnwmom Jul 2013 #56

"She saw a healthy son get terribly ill from his vaccinations" longship Jul 2013 #57

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #3

Kudos to ABC for finding someone even less appealing than Lizzie MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #4

No kudos to the bandwagon that's trying to derail McCarthy before she even boards the train. nt live love laugh Jul 2013 #34

Maybe not from you. I loathe her. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #38

Yawn. mzmolly Jul 2013 #5

Sure, but the discussion is over on vaccines and autism. longship Jul 2013 #11

Jenny McCarthy had her son vaccinated. mzmolly Jul 2013 #12

a happened then b happened mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #16

What would you like to call b? Can we ever discuss mzmolly Jul 2013 #21

it's coincidence until proven otherwise mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #33

It was proven mzmolly Jul 2013 #37

no it wasn't mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #41

Bull. mzmolly Jul 2013 #42

really? mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #43

Familiarize yourself with mzmolly Jul 2013 #44

the polling family mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #46

Do you think Dr. Poling mzmolly Jul 2013 #50

in my world mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #61

So does Dr. Poling. mzmolly Jul 2013 #62

Post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning? longship Jul 2013 #17

I've heard that thanks. Got a new name for McCarthy's son's condition for me, then? mzmolly Jul 2013 #20

There is zero vaccine autism connection. longship Jul 2013 #23

Gotcha. So what would you like to call mzmolly Jul 2013 #24

"Including vaccines"? Nope, and likely not environmental either. longship Jul 2013 #26

No vaccine has ever harmed anyone, mzmolly Jul 2013 #27

Aw! Come on! A straw man argument? longship Jul 2013 #28

The straw man is the notion that I said "vaccines cause autism". mzmolly Jul 2013 #31

Look, my friend, please at what the research says. longship Jul 2013 #32

Thanks to you mzmolly Jul 2013 #39

I can eat a pretzel today and be diagnosed with cancer tomorrow. Apophis Jul 2013 #55

Did you learn that a diagnosis of autism results from a mzmolly Jul 2013 #58

Plus, Sherri Shepherd is a flat-Earth fundie dolt KamaAina Jul 2013 #6

it's the stupid, stupid datasuspect Jul 2013 #7

ABC would hire Wallace the Talking Donut to improve ratings olddots Jul 2013 #18

Jenny McCarthy is as much a doctor as Elizabeth Hasselbeck closeupready Jul 2013 #19

Did they complain about Hasselbecks dangerous nonsense burnodo Jul 2013 #25

That's precisely why they hired her. A good replacement for Hasselbeck. Avalux Jul 2013 #29

But she wears glasses now, so that must make her smart...right? bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #30

Judging from the reaction of apologists, Jenny McCarthy must have big pharma shaking in their boots. live love laugh Jul 2013 #35

It's okay. The snake oil industry's at least as enthusiastic with funding their shills. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Jul 2013 #59

Yup and I hope they are. Sorry I deleted previious Raine Jul 2013 #60

Good article on this from the New Yorker octoberlib Jul 2013 #36

Is the fundie creationist idiot still there? She should fit right in snooper2 Jul 2013 #45

McCarthy is intelligent? Apophis Jul 2013 #54