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Proud Liberal Dem

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23. Why should this be seen as a "cave"?

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:27 PM

Jul 2013

We're getting the nominees we wanted and if the Republicans don't keep their end of the bargain, Reid can STILL push the nuclear button. That being said, I think that some serious reform of how the filibuster can be used needs to be done (and should be done soon). Personally, I'm in favor of keeping the filibuster intact but requiring more votes to keep it going over time- thus ensuring that both the will of the minority AND majority is respected. It gives opponents the opportunity to state their case (if they have one) and get other people to agree with them but still (eventually) allows an up-or-down vote to be held. The use of the filibuster for the sake of obstruction for obstruction's sake has GOT to end IMHO.

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Reid, and our squishy on filibuster senators, didn't cave [View all] dsc Jul 2013 OP

That's the way I read it. Thanks. lamp_shade Jul 2013 #1

No. This is NOT about 7 appointments. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #2

that was never in the cards dsc Jul 2013 #3

It SHOULD have been in the cards BlueStreak Jul 2013 #6

not judicial ones dsc Jul 2013 #8

it SHOULD include judivial appointments BlueStreak Jul 2013 #11

No ATF dsc Jul 2013 #12

Do you think the judicial appointments are less important that these bureaucrat jobs? BlueStreak Jul 2013 #22

I would imagine he doesn't have 51 votes to go after judical nominations dsc Jul 2013 #24

I think that is the case BlueStreak Jul 2013 #25

So in essence, he got the nominees, with a slight delay, and he keeps the gun pointed at them. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #4

yep dsc Jul 2013 #5

Tell me when you think we will see confirmation votes on the DC Appeals Court BlueStreak Jul 2013 #10

EPA will be today or tomorrow dsc Jul 2013 #14

Slight delay??? progressoid Jul 2013 #7

No a bit over a month dsc Jul 2013 #9

Cordray was first picked for the CFPB in July of 2011 progressoid Jul 2013 #13

that is a sunk cost dsc Jul 2013 #16

It didn't have to be. progressoid Jul 2013 #19

Thanks. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #15

What he did was trade 7 possible votes for a functioning Senate. Piss-poor-trade. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #17

they will be approved dsc Jul 2013 #18

repubs still control the senate from a minority position. weak dems. nt msongs Jul 2013 #20

"He won" Dawgs Jul 2013 #21

Why should this be seen as a "cave"? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #23

Exactly. The Republicans caved rather than get nuked. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #26