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mzmolly

(52,789 posts)
27. No vaccine has ever harmed anyone,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

ever. I understand the mindset.

The medical research shows that autism is a result of genetic and environmental factors.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2012/the-new-genetics-of-autism-why-environment-matters.shtml

A third point takes us back to the questions we started with. It is important to understand that de novo mutations may represent environmental effects. In other words, environmental factors can cause changes in our DNA that can raise the risk for autism and other disorders. ........... Is autism genetic or environmental? These new studies suggest it can be both. Genetics will not identify the environmental factors, but it may reveal some of the many syndromes within the autism spectrum (as in other neurodevelopmental disorders), it can define risk (as in other medical disorders), and it should yield clues to the biology of autism (revealing potential targets for new treatments). These three new papers on spontaneous mutations are an important milestone in a long journey. In parallel we need to find environmental factors, recognizing that there will be many causes for the autisms and many roads to find them.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/environment-genes-autism-turn-on-off-epigenetics-twin-study_n_3136912.html



Environment Interacts With Genes In Autism, Twin Study Shows

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The number of DNA methylation sites across the genome was also linked to the severity of autism symptoms suggesting a quantitative relationship, said Wong, whose study was published in the journal Molecular Psychiatry on Tuesday.

"We identified distinctive patterns of DNA methylation associated with both autism diagnosis and related behaviour traits, and increasing severity of symptoms," she said.

Jonathan Mill, of the IoP and the University of Exeter, who led the study, said research into the intersection between genetic and environmental influences was crucial "because risky environmental conditions can sometimes be avoided or changed".

He said the next step was to conduct larger studies to see whether researchers can identify key epigenetic changes that are common to the majority of people with autism and use them to help develop ways of preventing or treating the disorder.

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Imho DUgosh Jul 2013 #1
But McCarthy's claims have a body count. longship Jul 2013 #2
Anyone who takes child rearing advice from Jenny McCarthy SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #8
That doesn't explain the strength of the anti-vaccine movement. longship Jul 2013 #9
But isn't that a problem with them not her? SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #10
I cannot agree that it's their problem. longship Jul 2013 #14
It's a very important issue, but Jenny McCarthy is not closeupready Jul 2013 #22
I agree. And she's not pushing those views anymore -- she changed her mind several years ago. pnwmom Jul 2013 #48
Did she? I wasn't aware of that. So much the better. closeupready Jul 2013 #49
There is nothing "insane" about the idea that vaccines cause autism. It's an idea that's been live love laugh Jul 2013 #13
McCarthy is profoundly ignorant and wrong about vaccines. nt longship Jul 2013 #15
She has actually changed her views about vaccines. pnwmom Jul 2013 #47
I'll believe it when she recants. longship Jul 2013 #51
She has said she no longer thinks the vaccines caused her son's autism. That is recanting. pnwmom Jul 2013 #52
Let her use her time on The View to recant. longship Jul 2013 #53
She wasn't an idiot. She saw a healthy son get terribly ill from his vaccinations pnwmom Jul 2013 #56
"She saw a healthy son get terribly ill from his vaccinations" longship Jul 2013 #57
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #3
Kudos to ABC for finding someone even less appealing than Lizzie MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #4
No kudos to the bandwagon that's trying to derail McCarthy before she even boards the train. nt live love laugh Jul 2013 #34
Maybe not from you. I loathe her. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #38
Yawn. mzmolly Jul 2013 #5
Sure, but the discussion is over on vaccines and autism. longship Jul 2013 #11
Jenny McCarthy had her son vaccinated. mzmolly Jul 2013 #12
a happened then b happened mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #16
What would you like to call b? Can we ever discuss mzmolly Jul 2013 #21
it's coincidence until proven otherwise mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #33
It was proven mzmolly Jul 2013 #37
no it wasn't mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #41
Bull. mzmolly Jul 2013 #42
really? mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #43
Familiarize yourself with mzmolly Jul 2013 #44
the polling family mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #46
Do you think Dr. Poling mzmolly Jul 2013 #50
in my world mnmoderatedem Jul 2013 #61
So does Dr. Poling. mzmolly Jul 2013 #62
Post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning? longship Jul 2013 #17
I've heard that thanks. Got a new name for McCarthy's son's condition for me, then? mzmolly Jul 2013 #20
There is zero vaccine autism connection. longship Jul 2013 #23
Gotcha. So what would you like to call mzmolly Jul 2013 #24
"Including vaccines"? Nope, and likely not environmental either. longship Jul 2013 #26
No vaccine has ever harmed anyone, mzmolly Jul 2013 #27
Aw! Come on! A straw man argument? longship Jul 2013 #28
The straw man is the notion that I said "vaccines cause autism". mzmolly Jul 2013 #31
Look, my friend, please at what the research says. longship Jul 2013 #32
Thanks to you mzmolly Jul 2013 #39
I can eat a pretzel today and be diagnosed with cancer tomorrow. Apophis Jul 2013 #55
Did you learn that a diagnosis of autism results from a mzmolly Jul 2013 #58
Plus, Sherri Shepherd is a flat-Earth fundie dolt KamaAina Jul 2013 #6
it's the stupid, stupid datasuspect Jul 2013 #7
ABC would hire Wallace the Talking Donut to improve ratings olddots Jul 2013 #18
Jenny McCarthy is as much a doctor as Elizabeth Hasselbeck closeupready Jul 2013 #19
Did they complain about Hasselbecks dangerous nonsense burnodo Jul 2013 #25
That's precisely why they hired her. A good replacement for Hasselbeck. Avalux Jul 2013 #29
But she wears glasses now, so that must make her smart...right? bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #30
Judging from the reaction of apologists, Jenny McCarthy must have big pharma shaking in their boots. live love laugh Jul 2013 #35
It's okay. The snake oil industry's at least as enthusiastic with funding their shills. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Jul 2013 #59
Yup and I hope they are. Sorry I deleted previious Raine Jul 2013 #60
Good article on this from the New Yorker octoberlib Jul 2013 #36
Is the fundie creationist idiot still there? She should fit right in snooper2 Jul 2013 #45
McCarthy is intelligent? Apophis Jul 2013 #54
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