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cherokeeprogressive

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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:25 AM Jul 2013

No. One. Knows. [View all]

You can make all the claims you want about Trayvon's fears, or Zimmerman's intentions. You can claim to know Zimmerman left his home that night WANTING to kill a black man as the prosecutor stated "he killed Trayvon not because he HAD to, but because he WANTED to.

Truth is?

You can't know. You DON'T know. Absent video combined with audio starting with the first second of the confrontation, NO one can. No one DOES.

I don't give a FUCK about what happens to George Zimmerman. He fucked up. Somehow he found himself in a situation he wasn't prepared to be in. He had a gun, which MAY have emboldened him (again, not being there and NOT being clairvoyant it's impossible to say with 100% certainty) and found his scared ass in a situation where he decided to use it. He's either a BAD ASS (MMA training) or a COWARD (screaming for his life). He can't be both. The DU Jury has at various times tried to claim he IS both coward and bad ass by virtue of his "MMA Training". My guess is COWARD even though he had a loaded gun.

All I can do is GUESS though, and that's all YOU can do as well no matter how certain you think you are about what went down in those few minutes.

The women on the jury heard every word of testimony. Most of us heard some, and relied on news accounts as well as DU posts (I might add that the DAY the word Zimmerman showed up on DU he was considered "white" and convicted) which we used to form our own opinions of whether or not he was guilty.

Now, we blame the women who served on a jury they didn't ask to be part of. They're racists. They lied. They broke the law. They're money-grubbers. They're a group of six who can't know what horrors African-Americans have endured since the inception of this nation.

They sat in the courtroom. We didn't. They didn't ask to. Some DUers would have traded their right arms to.

I think George Zimmerman was guilty of Manslaughter and I'd bet my bottom dollar if that's what he was charged with, he'd be in custody and awaiting a sentencing hearing. That's not what he was charged with though. At the end of the trial, knowing they hadn't made their case, the prosecutors asked the judge to instruct the jurors to consider a lesser charge... one they hadn't attempted to make.

So now we blame them for a miscarriage of justice.

This weekend, there will be violence in 100 cities... bank on it.

Blame who you will, but don't blame those six women.

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No. One. Knows. [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 OP
"... He had a gun, which MAY have emboldened him..." Electric Monk Jul 2013 #1
i have jury duty next week which i don't want to do , so that's not an excuse for me, b37 is a JI7 Jul 2013 #2
He is complaining about how DUers complain. Rex Jul 2013 #4
LOL cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #10
My point is you are doing nothing original. Rex Jul 2013 #37
My point is blaming the jury for their verdict is wrong. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #6
she thought Zimmerman's friend was the Medical examiner , she tried to get a book deal out of this JI7 Jul 2013 #8
we know the family is racist, the brother compared Trayvon to the black kid who shot the baby in the JI7 Jul 2013 #3
Well the one juror's first reaction was to make money off of a book deal. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #5
Isn't there a call for protests in 100 cities this weekend? Aren't there agents provocateurs ready cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #7
Of course you would. Rex Jul 2013 #9
Tell me why I shouldn't profit from a life experience that was thrust upon me. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #11
If you're a red-blooded capitalist ready to vampire off the death of black youth... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #16
No I won't tell you that, those are life experiences one Rex Jul 2013 #36
Ok but that makes her a money grubber and in your Op you complained about that I think. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #13
people are called for jury duty all over the country all the time JI7 Jul 2013 #14
No one seeks it out. Seeking jury duty would be useless. Doesn't happen. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #17
It is not useless if she wanted to make money off it. She got that deal very quickly. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #21
It's not about seeking it out. It's about having the opportunity dropped in your lap. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #22
there were people who tried to get on for the Zimmerman trial JI7 Jul 2013 #23
How may of them did, and what were there names? I'd trumpet them from my own roof. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #25
i don't know how many but this was during jury selection they reported about JI7 Jul 2013 #28
Those 6 women absolutely were complicit in a severe miscarriage of justice. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #12
Where do I find the class that teaches me the clairvoyance necessary to make that claim? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #15
If you think it requires clairvoyance, then you are not paying attention. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #18
No, it simply requires the ability to know the mind of another... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #24
A group of white people serve an injustice against a black victim. Welcome to reality. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #26
You gotta stop thinking the Trayvon's of the world are likely guilty. Hoyt Jul 2013 #27
They were in essence bullied. Although even then they are culpable... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #31
No. One. Knows. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #19
I don't. Neither do you. Hence the post. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #20
You are missing the point tkmorris Jul 2013 #30
"This weekend, there will be violence in 100 cities... bank on it." Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #29
No, to beleive Zimmerman's story, and ignore any evidence or testimony to the contrary... killbotfactory Jul 2013 #32
Wow angrychair Jul 2013 #33
I'll thank you not to tell me what I do and don't know TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #34
Excellent post. nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #35
You won. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2013 #38
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