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COLGATE4

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12. That seems to sum up the misconception that
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:43 AM
Jul 2013

most posters on this topic have. What Z did prior to the physical confrontation with T is legally irrelevant. What the jury had to decide was 1) who started the physical altercation, 2) did either party try to withdraw from it and 3) would a reasonable person have believed (s)he was in danger of death or great physical harm. Nothing that took place before the first blow was struck was relevant to proving Murder 2 or Manslaughter. Apparently the jury decided that there was enough reasonable doubt about these to acquit Z.

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Much as I love Jimmy Carter . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #1
Well, to be fair... pipi_k Jul 2013 #11
You're missing his point. Avalux Jul 2013 #13
That's right, and flawed laws will undermine our justice system. Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #18
My view is that after hearing the words of B37, how she characterized them Ninga Jul 2013 #22
Exactly. Jawja Jul 2013 #27
They could not "invalidate" a law. former9thward Jul 2013 #31
I did not mean literally. Jawja Jul 2013 #32
I understand. former9thward Jul 2013 #34
There is no such thing pipi_k Jul 2013 #33
Good point. Jawja Jul 2013 #36
At the time I was surprised at the murder charge panzerfaust Jul 2013 #2
Good points. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2013 #6
I'm not sure YarnAddict Jul 2013 #9
That seems to sum up the misconception that COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #12
We know a confrontation happened. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2013 #16
Well said. This is ridiculous. Zimmerman should have been held criminally liable. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #17
And none of which was referenced in Jury Instructions One_Life_To_Give Jul 2013 #26
My 2 cts exlrrp Jul 2013 #10
What else *would* he say?? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #3
Yep. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #4
Come on Carter knows the PA usually goes high and includes the lesser chargers. SYG play a HUGE part uponit7771 Jul 2013 #5
President Carter Crepuscular Jul 2013 #7
program note: 'The topic of today's Two Minutes Hate, will be Jimmy Carter' markiv Jul 2013 #8
You're trying to argue that it was somehow COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #14
Prefferable to an aquittal One_Life_To_Give Jul 2013 #30
Carter isn't infallible. I like him, but he is wrong here. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #15
Oh dear, poor Jimmy ... under the DU bus he goes ... Myrina Jul 2013 #19
Peanut shells and tire tracks ksoze Jul 2013 #20
Ermm.. ananda Jul 2013 #24
I think it ws a refernce to the zero based policy here ksoze Jul 2013 #28
Right on schedule... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #29
They were mislead, confused and lazy. DCBob Jul 2013 #21
Agree. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #23
He is right. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2013 #25
Sorry, Mr. Carter, but I would have hung that jury. Brigid Jul 2013 #35
Me too coeur_de_lion Jul 2013 #37
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