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Manifestor_of_Light

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20. Tell me what is the true meaning of this?

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 03:34 AM

Feb 2012

No one (except Jesus) has ascended into heaven. Some have ascended into heaven.
John 3:13
No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Genesis 5:24

And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; For God took him.

2 Kings 2:11
And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Hebrews 11:5
Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him.
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You Say You Believe in the Bible? [View all] natrlron Feb 2012 OP

Very much along the same lines is this letter The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #1

F...ing hilarious. russspeakeasy Feb 2012 #3

Sounds like Jeb Bartlett in a great West Wing episode!!! elleng Feb 2012 #4

I love it! natrlron Feb 2012 #27

"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity and Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #2

^ Twain is so often forgotten ^ Mimosa Feb 2012 #33

Jesus was gay. Vattel Feb 2012 #5

...and don't even get me started on shellfish! bhikkhu Feb 2012 #6

If I understand correctly Christ came to release raouldukelives Feb 2012 #7

Christians are followers Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament. The Old nanabugg Feb 2012 #13

Matthew 5:18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away..." The Genealogist Feb 2012 #24

It may very well be I'm incorrect raouldukelives Feb 2012 #25

What bothers me the most about the people who read the Bible "literally" is that they WCGreen Feb 2012 #8

I agree with you WC madokie Feb 2012 #11

I'm going to lock this tkmorris Feb 2012 #9

I unlocked it tkmorris Feb 2012 #10

In the New Testament, Jesus said nothing against gay people. Paul did. Paul also said Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #12

You can't follow the instructions in the bible because they all contradict each other. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #14

You are taking the Bible too literally. Which is what a lot of the far right does. Zax2me Feb 2012 #15

I'm pointing this out to Christians. These are facts. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #16

I'm not destroying true meaning. just pointing out contradictions. Just two examples. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #18

The "true meaning intended" was always to control and manipulate other people Major Nikon Feb 2012 #19

Tell me what is the true meaning of this? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #20

There is no reasoning with people who believe this way Major Nikon Feb 2012 #17

I agree but don't agree natrlron Feb 2012 #21

I'm referring to those who take extreme positions Major Nikon Feb 2012 #23

The Catholic Church does NOT believe the Bible is infallible. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #22

Right. I don't believe the Catholic church has any kind of 'bible study' in its 'curriculum'. trof Feb 2012 #29

I believe that the Bible exists... MrScorpio Feb 2012 #26

The 613 Commandments pokerfan Feb 2012 #28

Bible: Interpretation is the problem colinx Feb 2012 #30

Catholics are fine with gays as long as they are celibate. Or so they say. immoderate Feb 2012 #34

when I worked in Jesuit college.. colinx Feb 2012 #36

Sounds like they weren't celibate. immoderate Feb 2012 #37

Then again.... colinx Feb 2012 #38

The Bible.. sendero Feb 2012 #31

Here is my favorite commentary on the bible Fortran Feb 2012 #32

I most absolutely DO believe in The Bible. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #35

It is not that simple. Believe in the constitution? How about that 2nd Amendment... The Straight Story Feb 2012 #39

So people need to jump through your hoops vs somene elses in order to justify their beliefs? Skip Intro Feb 2012 #40