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Socal31

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19. I think this thread would have better potential if "conservative" were defined.

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:45 PM

Jul 2013

Liberal/progressive and Conservative are terms that are fast moving targets, varying greatly between countries, states, and even counties. Besides geography, the progression of time causes generational gaps with how the terms are defined.

Then you can break it down by what "brand" of conservative.

Religious/social conservative is easy for me. Screw them if they try to sway public policy, no matter the religion.

Fiscal conservatives....I'll say that would be the closest for me. I am uncomfortable with the ballooning debt and QE, and I am ashamed at what the next generations will have to face. However, unlike the libertarian/anti-government nuts, I would just shift the money from the MIC/War on Drugs/Bribe money to Pakistan, Egypt, etc and put it into programs and infrastructure here in the US. You know, invest. Novel idea.

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Issues you kinda sorta side with the Conservatives on [View all] Taverner Jul 2013 OP

Don't know where you're getting your research Brainstormy Jul 2013 #1

Scientific Research Databases BigL Jul 2013 #6

Who is funding the research ... LisaLynne Jul 2013 #10

Alzhieimers, MS and Parkinsons rates have skyrocketed Berlum Jul 2013 #37

Not necessarily in relation to GMOs BigL Jul 2013 #50

Nothing to add ... etherealtruth Jul 2013 #56

Welcome BigL mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #64

Could you give me a version with links to studies? Taverner Jul 2013 #9

Version? Brainstormy Jul 2013 #15

That article didn't have any links to studies - that's why I asked Taverner Jul 2013 #16

Have you read any of that stuff? Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #17

Laughable? Brainstormy Jul 2013 #22

Yes, laughable. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #52

Ok, let's do this one at a time Brainstormy Jul 2013 #73

The 1st rule of being a conservative, take the asshole position NightWatcher Jul 2013 #2

That's why I think they should label GMOs Taverner Jul 2013 #13

Lemme add that I think antibiotics are WAY more dangerous than GMOs Taverner Jul 2013 #14

YES, but Brainstormy Jul 2013 #18

there be might some, but I'm pretty damn sure it's not for the same reasons... KG Jul 2013 #3

That's a good point. LisaLynne Jul 2013 #12

+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #32

Wow! Brewinblue Jul 2013 #4

I think we need GMO food, but we're being very irresponsible about how we're doing it. Ian David Jul 2013 #5

Agreed Taverner Jul 2013 #7

Prediction... Pelican Jul 2013 #8

Then it is our task to...DUH DUH DAH! KEEP IT CIVIL! Taverner Jul 2013 #11

you're correct Brainstormy Jul 2013 #23

I think this thread would have better potential if "conservative" were defined. Socal31 Jul 2013 #19

Why food safety, GMOs, climate change, LOTS OF LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES . . . Brainstormy Jul 2013 #24

I agree 100% with the absolute need for definitions. Today's Republicans are at best HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #61

How about government intrusions into privacy? tularetom Jul 2013 #20

I side with the Libertarians on this one too Taverner Jul 2013 #21

I'd argue that's not a "conservative" standpoint Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #30

I think we should be strict with immigration. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #25

That's actually a quite reasonable stance Taverner Jul 2013 #27

It's not entirely a zero sum game, though jberryhill Jul 2013 #29

I'm not an economist either, but the economic growth we've seen for LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #41

I think we should be strict with immigration... polichick Jul 2013 #36

I don't know how much longer people can continue to breed at LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #44

I'm with you - such selfish, ignorant people... polichick Jul 2013 #45

Free-market conservatives absolutely LOVE undocumented immigrants Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #40

Yeah, they like it as long as the peons know their place. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #46

opposing government domestic spy programs bowens43 Jul 2013 #26

Yep. Same here. 100% Taverner Jul 2013 #28

those are mostly libertarians (and the left), not conservatives. allin99 Jul 2013 #33

Beat me to it! polichick Jul 2013 #35

That tattoos are ugly! Now you kids get off my lawn! spooky3 Jul 2013 #31

Guns are fine Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #34

I support gun ownership. sagat Jul 2013 #38

That really isn't a wedge issue, as most people do support it. Socal31 Jul 2013 #65

Voter ID laws eissa Jul 2013 #39

Election standards are set by States and I don't care to see your State's problems Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #70

Actually, my state is pretty awesome eissa Jul 2013 #72

Illegal immigrants Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #42

yep, those irish and poles datasuspect Jul 2013 #63

Illegal has no ethnicity Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #68

I can't think of anything I agree with them on. sinkingfeeling Jul 2013 #43

Surely you must think Bow Ties look neat? Taverner Jul 2013 #47

Nope, bow ties look like clown clothes. sinkingfeeling Jul 2013 #48

LOL Taverner Jul 2013 #49

Bow ties are cool. Crunchy Frog Jul 2013 #71

I suppose that I think that people have to take some measure of personal responsibility Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #51

I think all parties believe in personal responsibility Taverner Jul 2013 #62

Yeah, like I said I'm not sure it's really a "conservative" thing or not Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #66

I kinda support being able to eat whatever and how much you want Xyzse Jul 2013 #53

Bloomberg is an idiot and a Republican Taverner Jul 2013 #54

Agreed... Although I am also for subsidizing fruits and vegetables Xyzse Jul 2013 #55

I would be for some way for ads to list the calories of the food they sell Taverner Jul 2013 #58

That's pretty funny Xyzse Jul 2013 #60

I support the Keystone Pipeline. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #57

I am more worried about the fracking Taverner Jul 2013 #59

Less agreement with the conservatives but more on our own blind spots. BlueCheese Jul 2013 #67

Cultural Relativism distantearlywarning Jul 2013 #69