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marions ghost

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26. Yes but how much did they really know?

Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:49 AM

Jul 2013

--Did they really comprehend the implications, based on what was sketched out to them? Did they just chalk it up to "Security," without imagining the EXTENT of the surveillance...you'd think the cost would be questioned if nothing else. But Alexander gets everything he wants.

The rationalization might have been, "at least there's one arena that's functioning well" (a little TOO well, as it turns out). While, as you say, they returned to their regularly scheduled program.

I'm not letting them off the hook in saying this. They have failed us miserably. But I think some of that is because they were kept in the dark and THEY trusted too much. I'm sure that some do regret that stupidity. I'm sure that others knew quite well what was happening and were complicit.

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In a major way, it doesn't really matter whether Snowden released NEW [View all] Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 OP

Great post, Jackpine, thanks. Scuba Jul 2013 #1

I doubt it's a game changer Shivering Jemmy Jul 2013 #2

We'll see. The debate has certainly shone a light on our moral compasses. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #3

Our government should not be acquring this information no matter what. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #13

I completely agree. k&r n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #4

Love your sig line. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #5

Thanks. I haven't changed it since the Summer of 2009. Laelth Jul 2013 #11

And I love yours too bread_and_roses Jul 2013 #14

Elegantly stated. think4yourself Jul 2013 #6

Q&A Time in Congress = Finally marions ghost Jul 2013 #10

In an indirect way, that's what really disturbs me.... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #7

The NSA apparatus was built marions ghost Jul 2013 #20

I'd contend all of congress knew about it and is trying to cover their asses Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #23

At a higher level, it doesn't really matter Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #24

I think they knew too Go Vols Jul 2013 #29

the aclu's newest law suit says questionseverything Jul 2013 #30

Yes but how much did they really know? marions ghost Jul 2013 #26

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #8

Agree. nt navarth Jul 2013 #9

And, if it can bring renewed attention to other reports about massive suveillance KoKo Jul 2013 #12

The issue is Snowdenballing. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #15

Secret Courts allow us to... whttevrr Jul 2013 #16

"Ever hear of that?" Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #17

CRAP!! whttevrr Jul 2013 #18

I hear Nossink Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #21

Yes. nt freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #19

Good post, Jackpine! K&R Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #22

DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #25

Well, blogs and talking heads are talking some about it but baronjake Jul 2013 #27

Here's the problem, ProSense Jul 2013 #28

Lol. n/t ronnie624 Jul 2013 #32

Lol! Th1onein Jul 2013 #33

Great post! deurbano Jul 2013 #31