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ProSense

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Thu Jul 18, 2013, 02:24 PM

Jul 2013

"It is so bizarre the way you do that--quoting little rhetorical concessions that insult Snowden, I mean."

...sorry that you don't approve of the way I express myself. Oh well.

Snowden is a hot topic. From GD's first page

A Letter to Edward Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023288912

Snowden has no crediblity, and deserves no thanks.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023288332

Glenn Greenwald Responds to Carl Bernstein over Edward Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023289231

Jimmy Carter issues statement on Snowden. "America no longer has a functioning democracy"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023285237

If I Had to Chose Who is More Dangerous to US Security than Snowden...I'd say this Guy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023287837

Today, finally, Snowden was PROVEN a LIAR!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023285012

Glenn Greenwald: Growing Backlash Against NSA Spying Shows Why U.S. Wants to Silence Edward Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023288562

In Snowden's Russia Opposition Leader and Putin Foe Convicted
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023288994

US Threatens To Eliminate Trade With Venezuela If It Provides Snowden With Asylum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023287575

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Snowden has no crediblity, and deserves no thanks. [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

You are wrong. The growing backlash against NSA surveillance cali Jul 2013 #1

+100 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #2

You're missed the point. Snowden could have provoked the same discussion pnwmom Jul 2013 #3

Ok, how should he have done it? N-t Logical Jul 2013 #11

He could have restricted himself to releasing documents related to INTERNAL US surveillance. pnwmom Jul 2013 #19

I would be happy if China shut off all trade with America. kentuck Jul 2013 #24

If you ARE concerned about jobs in the US, then you would be concerned pnwmom Jul 2013 #31

We may even see more manufacturing jobs in the US n/t whttevrr Jul 2013 #33

You’re kidding, right? … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #296

Not as effective. The outrage made this a story. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #35

I think it would have been MORE effective, pnwmom Jul 2013 #40

Most people do not care. The fucking NSA are the bad ones here. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #43

Exactly Aerows Jul 2013 #59

It would not even have made the evening news. nt tsuki Jul 2013 #68

That's obviously wrong. He DID make the news in a big way when he released pnwmom Jul 2013 #79

Only because it was an international story picked up by journalists tsuki Jul 2013 #298

The initial story only dealt with that power point presentation and his claims of pnwmom Jul 2013 #307

I don't think that you can easily separate spying on Americans from spying on foreigners. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #130

Snowden could have. He could have stopped his releases with the power point pnwmom Jul 2013 #135

And the same person who was behind outing Valerie Plame, war criminal Dick Cheney, has also totodeinhere Jul 2013 #147

Thanks for pointing that out. 7962 Jul 2013 #214

codswallop. No other whistleblower got attention focused the way cali Jul 2013 #137

He had the world's attention when he released the power point about internal US surveillance. pnwmom Jul 2013 #141

Don't forget he gave information to a German publication that could have put NSA employees in danger arely staircase Jul 2013 #282

+ another Scuba Jul 2013 #6

That ProSense Jul 2013 #18

It has everything to do with your point Aerows Jul 2013 #51

It has everything to do with your claim cali Jul 2013 #62

I guess ProSense Jul 2013 #80

whether you buy into or not is irrelevant cali Jul 2013 #86

What? ProSense Jul 2013 #91

Prosense, you're calling Snowden, "a delusional and self-important clown"???? chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #99

Yes. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #107

You must lack an irony gene. nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #114

No, it's my opinion of him, and you don't have to agree. ProSense Jul 2013 #212

And I'm allowed to have the opinion that your statement is highly ironic. nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #241

You need to look up the word irony. You are comedy gold in the same way that Bush was. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #115

It's absolutely hilarious Aerows Jul 2013 #112

Exactly Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #134

Snowden is "a delusional and self important clown" Progressive dog Jul 2013 #271

What!?!? Phlem Jul 2013 #50

+1000 tsuki Jul 2013 #57

yeah, well, but then all those links would have to go to link heaven stupidicus Jul 2013 #145

The near pathological hatred some have for the man has me even more curious Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #182

With some people everything is ether black or white zeemike Jul 2013 #231

Snowden is really a sore spot, huh? polichick Jul 2013 #4

.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #179

He knocked the halo off kilter a tad and they went ballistic. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #184

Speaking of no credibility... NuclearDem Jul 2013 #5

In any other sense, he would be considered a traitor liberal N proud Jul 2013 #7

Big ol' surprise Aerows Jul 2013 #56

It how and where they were exposed that is wrong liberal N proud Jul 2013 #63

Any many can't rationalize Aerows Jul 2013 #83

; liberal N proud Jul 2013 #158

If our country is conducting illegal activities according to international law, totodeinhere Jul 2013 #161

Speculation "may be doing" n/t liberal N proud Jul 2013 #185

LOL, another Carter counter? You are losing the Snowden fight pretty.... Logical Jul 2013 #8

Vested interest? whttevrr Jul 2013 #9

That same person obsessed over Assange's rape charges. nt redgreenandblue Jul 2013 #13

ohhhh... whttevrr Jul 2013 #16

What the fuck are you talking about? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #22

You know full well "what the fuck" that person is talking about Aerows Jul 2013 #61

Bullshit. ProSense Jul 2013 #69

Oh my Aerows Jul 2013 #76

Still having trouble finding the "trash thread" feature, huh? ProSense Jul 2013 #81

You are trashing your own thread Aerows Jul 2013 #85

As far as this subject and your focus... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #300

Delusional and livid is no way to live DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #106

I love how she insinuates that I'm some other poster Aerows Jul 2013 #126

OK ProSense Jul 2013 #143

LMAO! Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #206

Good morning, ProSense. How are you feeling today? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #12

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #88

Ever thought about therapy for this obsession of yours? I hope you keep posting because byeya Jul 2013 #14

13 links? New record? And most to your own posts! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #15

12 of the 13 link back to DU posts... whttevrr Jul 2013 #21

LOL, good point! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #38

Always makes me think of these things... QC Jul 2013 #42

Bwahahahahahahah!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #44

OMG! Puglover Jul 2013 #138

In case it is: Booz Allen , The Carlyle Group, Clapper, Snowden, NSA think Jul 2013 #100

You forgot: NWO, new world order, one religion, pakistan, malala yousafzai, black pope, satan, whttevrr Jul 2013 #109

Blackwater, Caci, Monsanto, GE, Goldmann Sachs, Halliburton, News Corps think Jul 2013 #124

Blackwater! How could I have forgotten that one... whttevrr Jul 2013 #127

Academi think Jul 2013 #128

And... whttevrr Jul 2013 #140

Red McCombs. No shit... think Jul 2013 #152

Chairman of the Board for Academi... whttevrr Jul 2013 #156

Ya, that's tough to overlook think Jul 2013 #157

McCombs started Clear channel too?: think Jul 2013 #187

oops... whttevrr Jul 2013 #195

That's some heavy stink... think Jul 2013 #213

Links are bad, m'kay!!!11 tridim Jul 2013 #67

Links to your own posts Aerows Jul 2013 #70

It's like saying "Because I said so" whttevrr Jul 2013 #77

Edward Snowden is the hero of a grateful nation, riding to warn us of danger and quinnox Jul 2013 #17

Ah, Paul Reversky shows up in Moscow flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Paul Reversky... lmao! DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #129

+ a billion. My favorite are the posters that apparently hate Prosense Number23 Jul 2013 #315

Oh crap... Wait Wut Jul 2013 #188

LOL again. tridim Jul 2013 #73

I'm sure if you had something better Aerows Jul 2013 #92

Now, now. It's not like they haven't tried: woo me with science Jul 2013 #144

OMFG Aerows Jul 2013 #149

A lil help Cher? hootinholler Jul 2013 #251

It's from the ludicrous post Aerows Jul 2013 #256

I have a graphic for those situations hootinholler Jul 2013 #261

lmao!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #262

Tell Obama to pardon Ed Snowden. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #20

Yes, if the president would get on the people's side of this issue... polichick Jul 2013 #66

From the department of Aerows Jul 2013 #23

ROFL!!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #27

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #25

You're ProSense Jul 2013 #34

Thanks for linking to that! DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #41

Ha! Right! DMD has had posts hidden! NuclearDem Jul 2013 #46

Thanks for the link, Gives, DesMoinesDem more credibilty than Prosense. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #52

Ouch... that's gonna leave a mark. whttevrr Jul 2013 #58

I think DMD is my new hero. Maven Jul 2013 #113

OP #748 progressoid Jul 2013 #26

This post is like a Jackson Pollock Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #28

Something seems to be wrong with DU's spam filter. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #29

+10 RC Jul 2013 #219

LOL-- you know who has REALLY lost all credibility...? mike_c Jul 2013 #30

for the first time G_j Jul 2013 #32

blah blah blah blah blah.....etc bowens43 Jul 2013 #36

Could you perhaps stamp your feet for emphasis too? Pholus Jul 2013 #39

For those ProSense Jul 2013 #45

Oh, go make yourself useful. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #47

LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #49

Another one of your anti-Snowden spam threads. Apophis Jul 2013 #48

Someone ProSense Jul 2013 #53

Are you going here again? Aerows Jul 2013 #136

Some of the responses in this thread are SOLID GOLD! City Lights Jul 2013 #54

I don't know why but Snowden makes me think of Chuggo. bravenak Jul 2013 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jul 2013 #65

Hey guys! Snowden is a PHONY! NuclearDem Jul 2013 #75

He still makes me think of Chuggo. bravenak Jul 2013 #87

Are you mad, bro? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #93

Never. bravenak Jul 2013 #98

How I have never seen this before! zappaman Jul 2013 #292

R#9 & K n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #60

For the lolz, right? whttevrr Jul 2013 #64

I don't know which side of the Great Divide your lolz fall on. My rec is agreement with the o.p. UTUSN Jul 2013 #72

yikes... whttevrr Jul 2013 #82

Wasn't this post, like, 100 times yesterday? mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #71

Watch out ProSense shawn703 Jul 2013 #74

wow. that's what you call impressive denial cali Jul 2013 #84

What I find interesting shawn703 Jul 2013 #103

ProSense is one of DU's most valuable assets. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #108

You have only been on DU what, less than 10 days and you're already dissing us? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #150

On the contrary, I'm complimenting one of DU's most prolific and trustworthy fixtures. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #159

Fixtures?? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #162

I disagree. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #193

And who would know that better Union Scribe Jul 2013 #265

If this is the way you welcome all of your new members... AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #283

because the op's posts on snowden have become somewhat of a cali Jul 2013 #118

amazing how the drone killers get a complete pass in all these discussions ent it? nt msongs Jul 2013 #122

I think she is fooling less and less people all the time. The growing number of totodeinhere Jul 2013 #198

Because ProSense tends to make extraordinarily repetitive threads with selective quotes NuclearDem Jul 2013 #123

Wait ProSense Jul 2013 #154

Does light bend around you? NuclearDem Jul 2013 #208

Well said. nt Puglover Jul 2013 #246

Just 4 more and this one will open too Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #252

what i find interesting is the irony in your post.. frylock Jul 2013 #131

I wasn't admonishing anybody shawn703 Jul 2013 #223

What I find fascinating Android3.14 Jul 2013 #142

It's not about Snowden!!1! Scurrilous Jul 2013 #299

The ACLU, Amnesty International, Daniel Ellsworth, Human Rights Watch and the UN disagree. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #78

Snowden's ProSense Jul 2013 #97

Let's explore that for a minute, hmmmm? Pholus Jul 2013 #202

Of course many of his asylum requests have been denied. A lot of countries do not have the totodeinhere Jul 2013 #203

I think I'll stick with the ACLU's own assessment of what it stands for. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #215

Were did the rebellion go? Tugboat Jul 2013 #89

Ok. So what new safeguards should we establish for NSA surveillance? last1standing Jul 2013 #90

This is not a solution thread it is a distraction thread... whttevrr Jul 2013 #95

Welcome ProSense Jul 2013 #110

But I've been watching you post the same thing... whttevrr Jul 2013 #117

an enthusiastic +1 cali Jul 2013 #119

Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #148

No problem with criticism... It's the repitition Ad nauseum that gets old. whttevrr Jul 2013 #170

Deal with it. ProSense Jul 2013 #177

Yup... whttevrr Jul 2013 #189

Oh ProSense Jul 2013 #199

Absolutely! whttevrr Jul 2013 #211

Wait ProSense Jul 2013 #217

You got owned Aerows Jul 2013 #259

So do you have an opinion on my post? last1standing Jul 2013 #121

It's pretty amusing and predictable which posts will be answered Matariki Jul 2013 #248

You are hard to stand up to Aerows Jul 2013 #260

PsyOpsALiscious! hootinholler Jul 2013 #94

I think he is turning into your obsession. Rex Jul 2013 #96

No ProSense Jul 2013 #101

Ya you do seem to have a cult following now. Rex Jul 2013 #102

Yours ain't an easy job... polichick Jul 2013 #104

To be fair they also try to smear the characters of Union Scribe Jul 2013 #268

Agree to disagree nt Taverner Jul 2013 #105

I would like DevonRex Jul 2013 #200

It's a touchy issue Taverner Jul 2013 #245

Yes, thanks. DevonRex Jul 2013 #250

I hate Snowden Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #111

ProSense - whenever I see your threads Iliyah Jul 2013 #116

We will give that the thought it deserves Android3.14 Jul 2013 #120

Oh, give it a rest Warpy Jul 2013 #125

Question ProSense Jul 2013 #146

"Criticism of Snowden." NuclearDem Jul 2013 #151

I would criticize the posts Warpy Jul 2013 #153

Ah, character assassination again. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #132

............. snappyturtle Jul 2013 #133

ROFLMAO!!! Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #191

Caught me laughing too! I figured with the bootie photo upthread this snappyturtle Jul 2013 #205

Debate on Senate floor in December on Leahy, Wyden and Merkel amendments: DevonRex Jul 2013 #139

seriously? you think Pat Leahy failed on purpose? got any more ct theories? cali Jul 2013 #169

I already stated why I think he intended it to fail. In my post. Did you read it? DevonRex Jul 2013 #197

why yes, yes I did and I think you're full of... nonsense. cali Jul 2013 #229

Well, DevonRex Jul 2013 #254

I'd like to take this opportunity Aerows Jul 2013 #155

So you went from not trashing the thread as you declared to making a disingenuous claim? ProSense Jul 2013 #160

How many people do you think I am? Aerows Jul 2013 #167

Oh brother, I mistook you for another poster in the thread. ProSense Jul 2013 #172

You got your butt handed to you Aerows Jul 2013 #181

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #192

You mean the three different people Aerows Jul 2013 #204

Hmmm...then that means I was wrong. Rex Jul 2013 #165

Clearly, ProSense Jul 2013 #174

I don't even know what to think Aerows Jul 2013 #186

sure he does stupidicus Jul 2013 #163

SSDD nt Earth_First Jul 2013 #164

Since you've ignored my repeated questions about what to do about surveillance. last1standing Jul 2013 #166

Put on your flame suit shenmue Jul 2013 #168

Ah, the song of the Blue-linked ProPagandist. MNBrewer Jul 2013 #171

Is it called Jurrasic Park? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #173

Ah, the lame chants of the "Blue-linked" obsessed. ProSense Jul 2013 #175

We are aware of how you feel on the matter. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #176

what do phorbs taste like, sheep? Blue Palasky Jul 2013 #178

Fun game: Follow the ProSense links! DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #180

Ooh, link math. ProSense Jul 2013 #194

That's why I stopped clicking on her links some time ago. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #207

8 hops frylock Jul 2013 #227

It's like a mobius strip. nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #269

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #183

You've made your opinion painfully clear. blackspade Jul 2013 #190

Bah! they're just constitutional rights, on a ... .... piece of paper as der fuhrer bushy said Divine Discontent Jul 2013 #240

Where was Greenwald in 2006 when Al Gore gave his speech to the American Consitiution Society? stlsaxman Jul 2013 #196

Here: DeSwiss Jul 2013 #218

Finishing up his book. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #220

where were you? frylock Jul 2013 #230

.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #201

? ProSense Jul 2013 #210

Irony. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #209

Don't use that word around ProSense. She doesn't know what it means. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #221

Oh, Linky-poo... Did you REALLY need to do this again? RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #216

"I actually happen to agree with you that 'Snowden is a delusional and self-important clown'" ProSense Jul 2013 #222

It is so bizarre the way you do that-- Marr Jul 2013 #228

So ProSense Jul 2013 #236

K&R! nt sheshe2 Jul 2013 #224

Maybe this is why it was important to leak it now? kentuck Jul 2013 #225

Maybe DU should change its rules to limit the number of repetitive posts that can totodeinhere Jul 2013 #226

It's Snowden's fault. kentuck Jul 2013 #233

a cap on OPs/day is long past due frylock Jul 2013 #235

Like I said ProSense Jul 2013 #237

Here's another DUer who posts lots of Snowden threads: Scurrilous Jul 2013 #312

I am not calling for the muzzling of anyone. But every forum has the right to establish certain totodeinhere Jul 2013 #313

I remember when DU had threads congratulating posters for reaching milestones such as 100,000 posts. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #314

I oppose personal attacks. But I would also like to know if that accusation totodeinhere Jul 2013 #323

She has denied it repeatedly and no one has offered any proof otherwise. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #326

Yes and for every one she posts, pro sense posts three more burnodo Jul 2013 #317

Serious question, joking aside. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #232

Because propaganda must be able to REWRITE history on a dime, woo me with science Jul 2013 #327

Thank you for posting this. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #330

Two different issues ShawnRIN Jul 2013 #234

196-5,and now for the halftime show... BornLooser Jul 2013 #238

Some of these folks are becoming obsessed with you. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #239

Because what once used to be informative posts darkangel218 Jul 2013 #242

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #243

I personally am NOT obsessing over you, ProSense. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #247

If posting a bunch of links got an OP deleted ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #244

I agree calling out is wrong. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #249

IMHO ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #257

That's rich ProSense Jul 2013 #272

This thread is not aboit me, its about you. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #273

Wrong, the thread is not about me, ProSense Jul 2013 #275

"few others" darkangel218 Jul 2013 #277

? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #309

Nearly 102,000 posts on every political issue imagineable, *always* with positive spin for the WH, Marr Jul 2013 #253

Ok let's think. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #255

I have supported President Obama from the day one darkangel218 Jul 2013 #258

"who have never said a positive thing about the administration" Logical Jul 2013 #285

Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #263

Excuse me to step in, since you clearly havent replied to me darkangel218 Jul 2013 #264

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #270

It proves the point i was trying to make. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #274

"Creepy" is used to make you slink away in shame. Puglover Jul 2013 #278

Umm... are you confused or something? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #279

I'm not obsessed with you, I simply consider you a White House advocate. Marr Jul 2013 #288

because it's funny Matariki Jul 2013 #281

Obsessed? You mean like 100 posts a day about Snowden? That type of obsessed? n-t Logical Jul 2013 #284

But, we need more Snowden threads. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #287

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #293

Geez... maybe you should take a break with this obsessiveness... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #304

Obsession! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #305

Right? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #308

Hahahaha!!!! That is so true. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #310

Did you call me - Monsieur S. Nado? flamingdem Jul 2013 #311

Its like middle school. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #319

i'm willing to bet no one read any of this Enrique Jul 2013 #266

Again? Thought we covered this already ... nt TBF Jul 2013 #267

Mahalo, ProSense! When will big hoax snowden and his Cha Jul 2013 #276

recommended nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #280

Snowden should come home and go on Faux and Friends. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #286

I suspect that that folks at Fox and Friends would be defending the totodeinhere Jul 2013 #290

No, you don't get it. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #291

I tried a search to see if I could find any specific comments that she has made on totodeinhere Jul 2013 #301

Greenwald went on Faux and Friends recently. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #303

I do not deny that they bash Obama at every opportunity. We all know that. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #306

Dang it! Summer Re-Run season is here! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #289

I think you are alone on this usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #294

? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #321

I think he did a great service to the country. Jake2413 Jul 2013 #295

"It's cool when Obama does it but bad when Bush does it unreadierLizard Jul 2013 #297

Lmao!!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #325

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #302

The attacks on you in this thread were HILARIOUS. I know we're all supposed to think that Number23 Jul 2013 #316

+1000 Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #320

. ProSense Jul 2013 #322

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #336

this anti-Snowden campaign reeks of flop sweat yurbud Jul 2013 #318

Yep. nt darkangel218 Jul 2013 #324

and the more they howl and resort to personal attacks, the worse they look. yurbud Jul 2013 #328

You cant deny they're amusing. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #329

You mean like the howling pack of hyenas in this thread? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #331

Exactly!! n/t boilerbabe Jul 2013 #332

Snowden did a lot more than post on a message board warrprayer Jul 2013 #333

Is that a photo of Vladimir Putin in your Sig? flamingdem Jul 2013 #334

Nyet warrprayer Jul 2013 #335

... warrprayer Jul 2013 #337