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In reply to the discussion: Here's Florida’s Next Trayvon Martin Case [View all]onenote
(46,140 posts)and are incapable of understanding rather basic concepts.
I just gave you an example in which the defendant came after the victim and confronted him. In which the defendant suffered nary a scratch. And yet it is abundantly clear that, in both an SYG state and a non SYG state, the defendant had a legitimate basis for presenting a claim of self defense to the jury. In fact, if in my hypothetical, the victim had pulled out a toy gun, the defendant probably would still have strong case for self defense unless the jury was persuaded that there was no way the defendant could not have known the gun being pulled was a toy and not real.
In the Zimmerman example, there was evidence that the victim was on top of the defendant. Whether the defendant had serious injuries, minor injuries, or no injuries at all are facts that can be considered by the jury in deciding whether a reasonable person, with someone on top of them (assuming the jury concludes that the state has rebutted that claim beyond a reasonable doubt) might reasonably fear that they are about to suffer grevious harm from having their head smashed against the sidewalk. You seem to think that the fact that the injuries he had means that no reasonable person could have feared that the next blow would be harder and more damaging. A jury could disagree and certainly, under both pre SYG and post SYG law would have the opportunity to decide that issue.
You should move on to trying to fathom some simpler legal concepts. Because self defense is clearly beyond your ability to comprehend.