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OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
2. Power We Didn't Grant
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jul 2013

Power We Didn't Grant
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/22/AR2005122201101.html

On the evening of Sept. 12, 2001, the White House proposed that Congress authorize the use of military force to "deter and pre-empt any future acts of terrorism or aggression against the United States." Believing the scope of this language was too broad and ill defined, Congress chose instead, on Sept. 14, to authorize "all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations or persons (the president) determines planned, authorized, committed or aided" the attacks of Sept. 11. With this language, Congress denied the president the more expansive authority he sought and insisted that his authority be used specifically against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda.

Just before the Senate acted on this compromise resolution, the White House sought one last change. Literally minutes before the Senate cast its vote, the administration sought to add the words "in the United States and" after "appropriate force" in the agreed-upon text. This last-minute change would have given the president broad authority to exercise expansive powers not just overseas -- where we all understood he wanted authority to act -- but right here in the United States, potentially against American citizens. I could see no justification for Congress to accede to this extraordinary request for additional authority. I refused.

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Congress created this problem TheLion Jul 2013 #1
Power We Didn't Grant OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #2
So the White House just did it anyway BlueStreak Jul 2013 #4
There's a representative government. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #6
Touche. You are correct, sir (or madam) BlueStreak Jul 2013 #8
Claiming Congress understood all the impolications of what a secret court could do with no oversight BlueStreak Jul 2013 #3
"What happened to our Obama?" OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #7
OK. Then he stopped trying to conceal it after winning a second term BlueStreak Jul 2013 #9
Really? Your claim is that Congress is full of powerless morons. jeff47 Jul 2013 #11
A congressman has more power than a President? Wanna try that one again. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #14
Congress has more power than the president. jeff47 Jul 2013 #15
I guess that is why they are called co-equal branches BlueStreak Jul 2013 #16
They aren't called co-equal branches. jeff47 Jul 2013 #18
Somebody should break that news to Thomas Jefferson BlueStreak Jul 2013 #20
Yeah, a quote is far more important than reality. jeff47 Jul 2013 #21
You said they are not called "Co-equal". I quoted Jefferson using that exact terminology. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #22
Jefferson could have called them anything he liked. jeff47 Jul 2013 #23
Well if they weren't so busy repealing Obamacare a thousand times tularetom Jul 2013 #5
K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #10
They didn't know, didn't intend, and didn't care. All they wanted to do was BS kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #12
Don't ask don't tell Bradical79 Jul 2013 #13
kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #17
Good time to try some bi-partisanship? kentuck Jul 2013 #19
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