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NoOneMan

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24. Maybe? Maybe I didn't. In any case, I asked to start a conversation and see what people thought
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jul 2013

A lot of people most certainly take what he said in many different ways. I don't think its absurd to suggest one message is: "don't kill some people because they could potentially become the president/ceo/professor".

One of the reason SYG laws don't work is because they make the law subjective and vulnerable to prejudice. Those people who are deemed as non-valuable to society are permissable to kill to juries. We know these people to be former convicts, prostitutes, the mentally ill, minorities and most certainly the homeless. Anyone that society (or communities) judge to have no value most certainly do not get a fair shake as a defendant, and people cannot properly empathize with them as victims (thereby letting their killers go free). This is a social sickness that needs to be addressed, and not necessarily reinforced by suggesting we just eliminate what groups we devalue. Value should not be part of the way we treat each other. Our perceptions of value (or potential value) should not be part of how we apply laws. It does not matter who and what a victim is, or who and what an offender is. Are we a civil society or not?

At the end of the day, if what the president says makes one less person get profiled, stalked and killed, thats a positive. Its beyond ludicrous though if a human would only do that because they think their potential victim might have potential value.

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Is this a statement of empathy or value? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #1
Oh FFS... monmouth3 Jul 2013 #2
Neither. It's a discussion by a black man about being MineralMan Jul 2013 #3
Exactly loyalsister Jul 2013 #4
Exactly. MineralMan Jul 2013 #6
Thats empathy (from him). NoOneMan Jul 2013 #9
Are you for real? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #7
Yeah, I already get that NoOneMan Jul 2013 #8
Everyone has potential social value lunatica Jul 2013 #10
I don't think you should kill people regardless of potential social value NoOneMan Jul 2013 #12
You've missed the point if you think he says only black children have it lunatica Jul 2013 #13
Oh, you think I said that? I said it doesn't matter who has value. You don't fucking kill people NoOneMan Jul 2013 #15
Fact!!!!!!!!!! You misread the President. mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #20
Maybe? Maybe I didn't. In any case, I asked to start a conversation and see what people thought NoOneMan Jul 2013 #24
The only person who said it was mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #25
Yeah? So? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26
I agree it was a beautiful mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #30
Every time I see your posts you are just derailing OP's with nonsense. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #36
Thanks. Ill keep it up! NoOneMan Jul 2013 #37
That's creepy. I didn't realize photoshop was that advanced. BlueCheese Jul 2013 #29
When you compare it to an original Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #34
I have not seen the video but I read the statement a little differently. pennylane100 Jul 2013 #16
"If Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon before killing him..." NoOneMan Jul 2013 #17
I used the term "if" because I knew there would be some troll here to point out pennylane100 Jul 2013 #35
I see your point. ananda Jul 2013 #32
Yep, and from all of those white crackers in FL, "Come on down, Mr. President" Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #5
FFS, he wasn't commenting on age. Get a grip. Your "due respect" is a laugh. nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #11
That's a creepy statement lunatica Jul 2013 #14
Yes, it's creepy, but if you don't think it's racially motivated you're sadly mistaken. Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #33
You missed the point. It didn't have anything to do with age. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #19
The law makes targets of us all Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #31
They are losing their minds. mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #18
Good to hear. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #21
They are out the gate and running!!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #22
The President was brilliant today. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #23
Coulda been him last week (were he not prez). allin99 Jul 2013 #27
Powerful! Sissyk Jul 2013 #28
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