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Bernardo de La Paz

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27. An open mind does not mean crediting empty-headed "theories".

Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:41 PM

Jul 2013

The best scientists, the ones who do keep very open minds, eagerly completely discount many theories that are obviously worthless because they are disproven by well-established facts that are not in dispute. The theory in the OP video is such a "theory": worthless and rightly completely discounted for the reason that anyone with some care and simple equipment can establish the reality of facts that immediately disprove the "theory". Presumably you would be one of those people if you could carefully record observations of planets made with very modest equipment like a $100 telescope.

Actually, astronomers in the centuries and millenia BCE have been making such observations without any telescopes and lenses. The Anasazi of the SouthWest USA made observations that detected the 18 1/2 year lunar cycle that are much more sophisticated than those needed to disprove the junk that DJ Sadhu and Bhat are pushing.

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The helical model - our solar system is a vortex (our Galaxy, too) [View all] RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 OP

Big K&R LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #1

It doesn't make sense - it's pretty pictures, which are wrong muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #2

yep - corkscrew motion totally debunked - nice find Baclava Jul 2013 #4

not just wrong and not just superficially; it�s deeply wrong, based on a very wrong premise leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #6

For those who don't want to read the article: LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #8

not quite - 26,000 years is the earth's precession cycle, 240 million to go around the galaxy Baclava Jul 2013 #9

That's what he said; I just misquoted him. Thanks for the correction. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #14

There is more to this than just these two opinions. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #15

The video and Bhat's theory are utter junk. Disproved, debunked, demolished. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #16

I don't doubt that the theory presented by Sadhu's videos are wrong. And yes I do consider A Simple Game Jul 2013 #19

Sure, start with a hypothesis. Their hypothesis has been shot down, disproved, destroyed, demolished Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #24

Now you have me confused even more. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #28

For that sense, "travels behind" = "becomes occluded" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #29

Not what I was looking for but you knew that didn't you. Thanks anyway. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2013 #30

Even dictionaries can be wrong when they give an uneducated definition of a scientific term. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #31

Perhaps hypothesis would be a better word for the beginning of what I am describing. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #32

No, the problem was the viedo maker misused the word 'vortex' the first time round muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #17

My point is that if it is indeed a decaying orbit then it is in all actuality a vortex. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #18

'ahead' as in 'ahead of the motion of the sun round the galactic centre' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #20

I have no doubts that Sadhu's theory is wrong. I just find it interesting. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #21

But there are things like the 2nd video's invocation of 'precession', which is totally wrong muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #22

I am sorry I don't have a lot of faith in astronomers calculations. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #23

I have no faith in your understanding of scientific facts and the scientific method. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #26

An open mind does not mean crediting empty-headed "theories". Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #27

"Decaying orbit" has nothing to do with a "vortex" other than shape. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #25

Thanks for the link. And one more counter-argument: DetlefK Jul 2013 #10

What I find "neat" is the Sun warps gravity around it. roamer65 Jul 2013 #3

All stars do that TransitJohn Jul 2013 #7

I read the best place to park a telescope telclaven Jul 2013 #13

Actually, the distortion of space and time by gravity MineralMan Jul 2013 #12

my life is a vortex KG Jul 2013 #5

Pretty, but pretty badly incorrect. MineralMan Jul 2013 #11