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jeff47

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14. Not any more

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:45 PM

Feb 2012

The Republicans started with "OMG! Catholic Hospital would have to pay for birth control!!!!"

They've since moved on to businesses that are not at all religious - just their executives are.

Here's the deal: If you're a church, and you remain a church, you don't have to cover birth control. Nowhere in the proposed regulations do churches have to provide birth control.

The thing is when you stop being a church and become a hospital, you aren't a church anymore.

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Why are taxpayers paying for Viagra? Where is the Catholic hierarchy's outrage about this? [View all] shcrane71 Feb 2012 OP

Totally agree! cpamomfromtexas Feb 2012 #1

This is outrageous. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #2

Because men need to be able to get it up justiceischeap Feb 2012 #3

They need it to deal with alter boys. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #4

I keep seeing the contraceptions vs. Viagra comparisons customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #5

The lack of co-pay is a red herring jeff47 Feb 2012 #6

Perhaps you could answer my question customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #8

I already answered your questions. jeff47 Feb 2012 #13

It's not about Taxpayer's paying for Contraception or Viagra BOHICA12 Feb 2012 #7

Your point is well made customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #9

Not any more jeff47 Feb 2012 #14

You nailed it. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #32

Thank You!!! Do church related hospitals get tax deductions? n/t shcrane71 Feb 2012 #34

Only the ones available to any non-profit hospital (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #35

Churches aren't paying for contraception... health insurance companies are. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #17

And if you're a self-insured entity ... who pays? BOHICA12 Feb 2012 #20

What? MattBaggins Feb 2012 #36

Contraceptives save health insurers and healthcare consumers money... shcrane71 Feb 2012 #47

Because dirty old men need to get their dicks up. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #10

Just not the same, FogerRox Feb 2012 #11

I see the equity argument here: ED only happens to men, pregnancy only happens to women. CTyankee Feb 2012 #12

Yes you are right Dokkie Feb 2012 #15

Oh, I see "eliminate a potential child." And what if that woman chooses not to have another CTyankee Feb 2012 #18

Lol Dokkie Feb 2012 #19

thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry that you needed to. CTyankee Feb 2012 #29

Churches shouldn't be in the business of providing health insurance shcrane71 Feb 2012 #41

Right, and, there is more too it. FogerRox Feb 2012 #51

It's very difficult to get men to empathize with women's health issues that have been shcrane71 Feb 2012 #53

Churches objections to contraception is that sex should only be for procreation shcrane71 Feb 2012 #16

You missing the point here Dokkie Feb 2012 #21

Incorrect... Obama's compromise states that health insurance coverage must include contraceptives shcrane71 Feb 2012 #25

Really? joeglow3 Feb 2012 #27

Seems a portion of the population REALLY has a problem doing simple cost analysis... Sooo for you! shcrane71 Feb 2012 #33

It isn't a contraceptive. mmonk Feb 2012 #22

Which 98% percent of Catholic women use. I'm sure the numbers are similar for other religious sects shcrane71 Feb 2012 #26

Agree. However, the Catholic church is not a democracy joeglow3 Feb 2012 #28

The Catholic Church doesn't have to operate businesses MattBaggins Feb 2012 #37

It extends beyond just the church joeglow3 Feb 2012 #38

Yes they should be forced to violate those beliefs MattBaggins Feb 2012 #39

Because those violate other Constitutional rights joeglow3 Feb 2012 #40

It's a MEDICATION! A cost-effective, proven medication. If a so-called health care shcrane71 Feb 2012 #44

The problem with the Constitution is that you need to support those things you may oppose joeglow3 Feb 2012 #45

It's unconstitutional to require Health Care providers to provide contraceptives? That's ludicrous. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #46

When it violates someone else's rights under the Constitution, yes. joeglow3 Feb 2012 #48

Clerk of courts in many states must deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples because it's the law. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #52

Many people are making six figures a year working for "non-profits" helping the needy. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #42

True but I was just giving the reason or answer. mmonk Feb 2012 #30

Thanks... that's what I thought you were doing. Still, they want to start a war then be prepared shcrane71 Feb 2012 #31

Zey Vant more Peepz! fascisthunter Feb 2012 #23

How many child molesting priests need the pill? Come on, get real rustydog Feb 2012 #24

It's as if we have a lop-sided, male bias in our legislature, religious leaders..... spanone Feb 2012 #43

Because it might result in more of the right kind of babies. JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #49

I'm 100% fine with covering anything TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #50

This is often the first, middle, and last argument I hear amongst women from all different shcrane71 Feb 2012 #54

Why are taxpayers paying for Viagra? wallsan Jul 2012 #55

Welcome to DU. The Veterans Administration (VA hospitals) are 100% supported from shcrane71 Jul 2012 #56