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1. It can't be explained because it isn't legal. Well, unless...

Fri Jul 19, 2013, 10:12 PM

Jul 2013

The worshipers and apologists hang their flimsy spinning hat on the hook that, you see, it is all just fine and dandy because there are "secret laws" with "secret interpretations" approved by a "secret court" in which only one side (the NSA) appears. Throw in a modern version of Nixon's famous "if the president does it, it isn't illegal." And if that isn't enough to convince you, they throw in one or more items from their Hit Parade:

1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this
14. Other countries do it

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Can someone please explain how the NSA Slurp and Burp doesn't violate wiretap law? [View all] hootinholler Jul 2013 OP

It can't be explained because it isn't legal. Well, unless... PSPS Jul 2013 #1

He was asked if they collected data. Igel Jul 2013 #2

Do you really mean: hootinholler Jul 2013 #4

It's legal cause Bush said so RobertEarl Jul 2013 #3

I read about one possible weasel legal move, woo me with science Jul 2013 #5

Yep. There it is. The Loophole. RobertEarl Jul 2013 #9

Where the communications are coming from doesn't matter jmowreader Jul 2013 #10

How do they know you are a USian? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #12

Speaking English is one of the ways jmowreader Jul 2013 #17

Are you seriously suggesting that we have replaced the constitution hootinholler Jul 2013 #20

No. jmowreader Jul 2013 #30

This was explained before. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #6

Perhaps our Congress-critters could pass this law ... HumansAndResources Jul 2013 #7

First one must understand what wiretapping involves and understand what collecting phone call record Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #8

Thanks for speaking out on behalf of simple thinkers. And simple spellers, too. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #23

Oh wow, seems like simple thinker can even get the message with typo, guess everyone can't be Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #24

Clapper's definition of collection is what the intelligence community uses jmowreader Jul 2013 #11

If you feel more government is better RobertEarl Jul 2013 #13

I think we're answering different questions jmowreader Jul 2013 #15

Collection of contents RobertEarl Jul 2013 #28

Sorry but Government is not bad Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #18

That is not what Clapper said hootinholler Jul 2013 #21

Clapper's metaphor was real twisted jmowreader Jul 2013 #22

So you are saying this is what he should have said? hootinholler Jul 2013 #27

still waiting to hear the justification for the patriot act being used mainly to arrest pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #14

Do you understand we already knew about NSA collecting phone records? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #16

ill gotten gain, can't be used in court ... quadrature Jul 2013 #19

The best argument for how it can be legal, is they have FISA court warrants for it. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #25

All I can damn well guarantee you, this will be a major issue come the 2014 elections and somebody Purveyor Jul 2013 #26

NSA spying is a republican baby RobertEarl Jul 2013 #29