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In reply to the discussion: If we DON'T criticize the admin for this, there's something very wrong [View all]matthews
(497 posts)war based on a concept, on a 'term' that can mean whatever you want it to, depending on the time, the place, and the nationality of the dead.
Wall Street/corporate America has caused more desolation and destruction that any terrorists I can think of. They got together with the neo-cons of the bush/cheney administration and cooked up a business deal where we would go into a country that had been suffering under 10 years of crippling economic , that was a sovereign nation with 5,000 years of history and culture, and who hadn't done a damn thing to us and we would blow them back to the stone age and commandeer their oil fields. We killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children in an attempt to gain control over the Middle East and its only asset, their oil. And the bloody bastards who were running this mess didn't even take the initiative to try to understand the people they were going to attack.The dumb SOB in the White House, the one who's reputation Obama is working so hard to rehab, didn't even understand that there were Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims in Iraq and that they hated each other and wouldn't hesitate to start their own little war if the opportunity arose. That would have required some actual planning beyond going in with huge bombs, and terrifying the whole damn country into submission. BUT WE DID WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO, WE ATTACKED A DEFENSELESS NATION. For power and greed. Shock and Awe was just the signing of the contract.
That is my idea of a war based on terrorism.
Now, all the worst policies have been not only retained by the guy who promised to do away with them. The most anti-American acts against the Constitution have been secretly codified and turned lose on us as if we are the terrorists now. They are able to collect even more information than before thanks to better, faster, more sensitive technology. And they don't give a damn whether we like it or we don't. That's why they fight every attempt we make to find out what the truth is with the justification that we have no right to know what our government is doing.
Isn't that terror? It is the same bogey man I was raised to be afraid of. When I was very young, it is what I was programmed to be afraid of. I became aware of the 'red menace' in grade school, when I was taught to hide under my desk when they dropped the big one. That way I might have some chance of survival. You know, them damn Rooskies who were out to get us. You know who I'm talking about if you were alive during the 50's and 60;s at all. Them damn Rooskies didn't live in a democracy like us, and they had no rights. Their government spied on them all the time and you had to be very careful of what you said because it could be taken the wrong way and you'd be sunk. They threw people in jail for a long time if they said things their government did like And they all spied on each other because their government said you had to. You would be punished if you got caught knowing something about someone and you didn't tell it. Even if you were wrong you squealed. It was up to their spies to sort it out. Did they have money? Are they divorced? How do they act? Are they friendly? Do they ask questions? You just never knew who would turn you in, or why. And they all hated each and every one of us because we had rights and they didn't. Yep, we were so lucky to have these rights that it was worth our very life to protect them against the godless commies who wanted to take them away from us.
That's the concept of terror that I was indoctrinated with. By my schools, by the media, and by my own government.
Sound familiar?