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Spaldeen

(219 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:33 PM Jul 2013

The grocery store, the gun, and my free speech rights [View all]

Earlier today before I mowed the lawn and had to take some allergy pills, I was at the grocery store. There in the line behind me, when I was checking out, was someone carrying a gun on their hip. I didn't say anything. It's totally legal here in my state, after all. But, I just felt like they were somehow inhibiting my freedom to speech. I can't exactly figure out the how, or the why, or the what of the whole thing.

Maybe I was afraid to speak to the cashier? Maybe I thought that something would happen if I made a sudden move? Like if I pulled out my wallet too fast, the crazy person behind me would think I'm going for a knife to shank him, or somebody else? I mean, who needs a gun in the freaking grocery store? That meat you're buying is already dead, I promise you won't have to shoot it. I felt very conscious of all of my movements, like I was being watched, like a penned up animal at the zoo.

When I got out to my car, I just sat behind the steering wheel, angry. I wrapped my fingers tightly around the wheel, and just sat there, all tense, feeling uneasy, and flustered about the whole ordeal. I felt like I wasn't in control of the situation inside of that store at all.

I felt like I had been silenced. I felt like you would after being admonished by an authority figure, when you have no rebuttal. I felt like a child who had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I felt like I was the one who had done something wrong.

Why did I feel this way? I'm still pissed about it. If I can figure out why, I can fight it next time. Sorry for venting.

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The grocery store, the gun, and my free speech rights [View all] Spaldeen Jul 2013 OP

How do you know the guy wasn't a LEO? Jenoch Jul 2013 #1

I don't know if he was or not. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #3

Out of curiosity, what state are you in? Jenoch Jul 2013 #5

I am in Missouri Spaldeen Jul 2013 #19

I understand that those without Jenoch Jul 2013 #21

Point taken, Spaldeen Jul 2013 #25

I do not think it would be easier Jenoch Jul 2013 #40

I don't see your point... FLyellowdog Jul 2013 #69

Few guns will go off when they hit the ground. Jenoch Jul 2013 #80

So non-gun owners have the right to have no choice.... daleanime Jul 2013 #136

Huh? Choice of what? Jenoch Jul 2013 #161

Living in a world without cowards. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #180

That makes little sense... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #181

I think Bahr is saying..... Red Mountain Jul 2013 #225

That would be your opinion only, and a bad one at that. tumtum Jul 2013 #228

Typically, if someone is required (or chooses) to not carry... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #297

Last fall I had a gun owner point a high powered hunting rifle at me Fumesucker Jul 2013 #316

Anytime a gun, loaded or not, is pointed at you there is cause for concern... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #317

There's another solution which might be easier than making another law. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #115

It might be easier for you... Pelican Jul 2013 #147

oh it's the zimmerman defender, here to explain everything to us. thanks, zimmy-defender-man! HiPointDem Jul 2013 #31

Please point to any Jenoch Jul 2013 #37

ha HiPointDem Jul 2013 #92

What a brilliant reply. Jenoch Jul 2013 #125

ha-ha. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #128

I just find it kinda funny that your user name is a weapons manufacturer. SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #89

i think you addressed that to the wrong person. my user name is the name of a neighborhood i HiPointDem Jul 2013 #95

No, I addressed it to the right person. I find it funny that you didn't know that SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #102

i'm not interested in guns. i'm interested in neighborhoods, families, people & social conditions. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #109

I don't consider gun manufacturers highly important. Personally, I wouldn't SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #198

"It's really not as big a deal to me as it is to you." says the person who brought it up. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #211

I brought it up as a funny aside. You're the one carying the banner of outrage. SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #113

i find it funny you can't keep the posts straight. in your righteous rush to defend your buddies. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #130

Point taken. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #142

We aren't afraid of the guns, per se. We're afraid of the unhinged, kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #33

I don't make assumptions such as those Jenoch Jul 2013 #58

Oh, I don't assume that about EVERYONE who carries a gun kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #94

I'm not afraid of the guns. I'm afraid of the morons who are so delusional jeff47 Jul 2013 #45

I don't make the assumptions that you seem to. Jenoch Jul 2013 #60

That's your failing. jeff47 Jul 2013 #64

Not a failing, I am just not prone to stereotypes. Jenoch Jul 2013 #70

Yes, it's a failing, and it's aberrant. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #154

I'm simply not afrqid of guns. Jenoch Jul 2013 #164

I'm not afraid of guns so much truebluegreen Jul 2013 #190

Why not? treestar Jul 2013 #195

Your post is why in that particular situation I would keep an eye on the guy with a gun, and Jenoch Jul 2013 #306

It's not a stereotype when you actually know the people jeff47 Jul 2013 #192

You don't see the circular logic in that statement? Pelican Jul 2013 #149

No, because being "afraid of guns" would mean I was afraid of guns wielded by soldiers jeff47 Jul 2013 #294

What about me? Pelican Jul 2013 #305

Thank you for what you do. Jenoch Jul 2013 #307

It depends on why you want that gun on your hip. jeff47 Jul 2013 #319

Ok.. Pelican Jul 2013 #320

So you just believe in fairy tales then? How reassuring. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2013 #323

So... Pelican Jul 2013 #324

Much better things to spend time on. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #56

Much better than learning something that could Jenoch Jul 2013 #63

Or cost your life or the lives of your loved ones primavera Jul 2013 #112

How does taking a gun safety Jenoch Jul 2013 #126

Some people want NOTHING to do with guns. And do not need a class so they have.... Logical Jul 2013 #186

I too have a concealed handgun license, I carry when I leave the house for any reason. tumtum Jul 2013 #208

I do not open carry nor do I have Jenoch Jul 2013 #252

Forcing people who loathe guns to take a gun class? Brigid Jul 2013 #87

Who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything? Jenoch Jul 2013 #123

I understand that those without experience with BSL4 viruses can be fearful of them primavera Jul 2013 #118

I'm not sure Jenoch Jul 2013 #129

Everyone should be fearful of guns and fearful of those who parade them and stroke them, so if some bahrbearian Jul 2013 #179

Would this be an example of an acceptable stereotype? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #182

No, just acceptable and sanctioned on DU. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #298

As I have said several times, Jenoch Jul 2013 #308

I don't think it's the "experience" with guns that's the issue, but the experience with the carrier. MH1 Jul 2013 #187

Unless the guy in the store showed Jenoch Jul 2013 #309

To some, openly carrying a gun in a grocery store MH1 Jul 2013 #321

I would be surprised to Jenoch Jul 2013 #322

In this case, I don't think LWolf Jul 2013 #191

That is why it is Jenoch Jul 2013 #255

You shouldn't assume everyone who is fearful of guns thucythucy Jul 2013 #302

Experience in the manner you suggest Jenoch Jul 2013 #310

I assumed as much thucythucy Jul 2013 #326

Minnesota also allows open carry dflprincess Jul 2013 #49

It sounds like the person Jenoch Jul 2013 #54

It sounds like the person Jenoch Jul 2013 #57

The current law does require a mental health history check dflprincess Jul 2013 #65

I am not aware of all the legal issues involved Jenoch Jul 2013 #73

The conceal carry law requires the check and the form for a permit to carry asks for the information dflprincess Jul 2013 #91

You are painting with a broad brush Jenoch Jul 2013 #312

My own prejudices and the couple people I know who have permits dflprincess Jul 2013 #331

You wrote that Jenoch Jul 2013 #334

If the MMPI wouldn't keep people from getting a permit, why not require it? dflprincess Jul 2013 #342

If the MMPI wouldn't keep people from getting a permit, why not require it?" Jenoch Jul 2013 #343

That really explains it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #311

One way to find out is call 911 and report a suspicious a-hole with a gun. rdharma Jul 2013 #4

Calling the cops with Jenoch Jul 2013 #7

Sure! The charge? rdharma Jul 2013 #9

They don't need a charge. Jenoch Jul 2013 #13

Riiiight! rdharma Jul 2013 #15

I don't have any experience at what? Jenoch Jul 2013 #18

With dealing with a-holes who like to show off their gatt in public. rdharma Jul 2013 #23

You claimed to have some sort of experience Jenoch Jul 2013 #26

Point is ...... I don't need to prove my bona fides to you..... rdharma Jul 2013 #101

Lots of self-declared experts in the Gungeon, and I've noticed something about them. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #183

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #189

No. Not true. Because you can be anybody you want to on the internets. rdharma Jul 2013 #193

Since you've repeatedly advocated deceit on this thread, we've no reason to trust you: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #200

No "deceit here. If I see a nutjob gun exhibitionist, I'm going to report it. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #207

And when asked if they're doing anything illegal, would you lie? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #231

No, I'd just report things as I see them. rdharma Jul 2013 #235

And if it's legal where you are, you'd be making a nuisance call. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #236

No. Not if what I saw was "suspicious"! rdharma Jul 2013 #240

"Yes, Maam ... he's in line at the checkout and is openly carrying a gun." SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #278

You don't happen to belong to a neighborhood watch, do you? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #291

Yup! Great minds think alike.......open carry rdharma Jul 2013 #292

lol TheAmeriCAN Jul 2013 #314

"The cops always assume people are lying "? Sedona Jul 2013 #117

they investigated Trayvon instead of the gun humper Skittles Jul 2013 #174

They investigated Martin Jenoch Jul 2013 #176

"unfortunate incident"? Skittles Jul 2013 #178

No in many states unless you specificly state he is causin an issue they ceonupe Jul 2013 #32

Riiiiight! rdharma Jul 2013 #105

You know, they already tell us to do that when being pulled over! Spaldeen Jul 2013 #11

If it wasn't a LEO, then he got what he wanted. onehandle Jul 2013 #2

I was afraid of that. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #6

I generally just shrug The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10

Ignore them. onehandle Jul 2013 #14

I would have looked at him, Jenoch Jul 2013 #67

And he says, thucythucy Jul 2013 #304

You are showing your prejudice and fear. Jenoch Jul 2013 #313

"If he responded in a manner thucythucy Jul 2013 #327

I seem to be making the same point over and over in this thread. Jenoch Jul 2013 #328

Maybe comment on it treestar Jul 2013 #196

Next time? Just ignore them. tumtum Jul 2013 #209

Even LEO's can make me nervous. Oldtimeralso Jul 2013 #152

Carrying a pistol around in public serves only two purposes theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #244

Just say, "Hey, pal. Sorry about your penis." baldguy Jul 2013 #8

But give him a compliment first..... rdharma Jul 2013 #12

+1000 dflprincess Jul 2013 #51

That's good, but... Contrary1 Jul 2013 #71

In 2010, nearly 6 times more women were shot by husbands, boyfriends, and ex-partners than murdered DainBramaged Jul 2013 #254

Your idea sure would defuse the situation and make the guy in MO MUCH more comfortable. Jenoch Jul 2013 #131

When people do this they just want attention jimboss Jul 2013 #16

I say give 'em some attention by summoning the police. rdharma Jul 2013 #22

I'm not really sure what I would have done jimboss Jul 2013 #35

Yeah. Call a guy with a gun, to investigate, a guy with gun. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #53

Correction: Call a guy/guys with a badge to check out a nut with a gun! rdharma Jul 2013 #55

Because the badge makes it all okay! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #75

I participated in the occupy movement. rdharma Jul 2013 #77

You fixed it for you. You did nothing for me. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #90

As Grumpy Cat would say........ rdharma Jul 2013 #97

I was in a Burger King once, Brigid Jul 2013 #17

Maybe he was like this guy Spaldeen Jul 2013 #20

Possible they went to gun range earlier and didn't want to leave it in the car The Straight Story Jul 2013 #24

Well, I'd have a cop summoned to see if that's the case! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #27

Perhpas we should have cops pat down everyone out to eat The Straight Story Jul 2013 #30

No. Just a-holes who feel the need for open carry. rdharma Jul 2013 #34

Ah. so 'Feel' safe is important, being safe isn't. The Straight Story Jul 2013 #36

No, it doesn't. But neither did your ridiculous suggestion to pat everybody down. rdharma Jul 2013 #41

"I guarantee I won't accept it!" Hence the advocacy of profiling and baseless calls to police. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #202

Profiling? The a-hole is prancing around exhibiting his gun! rdharma Jul 2013 #206

You are from NC right? ceonupe Jul 2013 #39

Wanna bet? I can articulate "my suspicions" pretty well. rdharma Jul 2013 #43

And everytime you call they will record you. ceonupe Jul 2013 #52

I'm not worried about that. I know how the system works. rdharma Jul 2013 #62

I know we don't agree on many issues around guns and the 2nd ceonupe Jul 2013 #104

I guess it would keep cops busy though so robbers, rapists, etc would like it scared people The Straight Story Jul 2013 #78

Yeah. Zimmerman did that a lot too. nt rrneck Jul 2013 #100

He did, didn't he? Funny seeing a DUer endorse that particular practice... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #184

"I can articulate" =lie. tumtum Jul 2013 #210

Luckily I live in a place where the police dispatcher would have explaind our state laws. SQUEE Jul 2013 #134

Luckily I have a way of persuading dispatchers. rdharma Jul 2013 #137

So, you would lie? SQUEE Jul 2013 #143

No. I wouldn't lie. rdharma Jul 2013 #144

You are not as clever as you think. SQUEE Jul 2013 #148

Reporting a suspicious person with a gun is not a criminal act. rdharma Jul 2013 #150

Tiresome SQUEE Jul 2013 #153

Check those powder levels! rdharma Jul 2013 #156

Always, twice actually. SQUEE Jul 2013 #160

George Zimmerman used to do that a lot, too... n/t friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #185

So you see..... it works! rdharma Jul 2013 #194

"Luckily I have a way of persuading dispatchers"=lie. tumtum Jul 2013 #212

"Short of waving a gun around, police won't respond" - What kind of backward place is that?!!!! rdharma Jul 2013 #215

Thanks for the welcome. tumtum Jul 2013 #220

I've seen pro 2A people thrown of DU for purportedly advocating criminal mischief... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #300

paranoid gun humping cowards need them, Brigid Skittles Jul 2013 #42

Gunners wear their billh58 Jul 2013 #28

i recently had the same experience in a store. first time i've ever seen anyone with a handgun HiPointDem Jul 2013 #29

It sounds like we feel the same way about it. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #38

in the moment, nothing, since it's legal. i was trapped in line, next time i'll just leave. in the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #48

I don't know if it would do any good but If enough people jimboss Jul 2013 #61

yes, that might work. private businesses can ban guns. i would like to see that. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #88

I'd feel the same way. I'd feel like anyone who had to arm themselves to go to forestpath Jul 2013 #44

I feel exactly the same way!! truegrit44 Jul 2013 #170

That feeling you have. Robb Jul 2013 #46

Is it similar to the realization. MaineBlueDog Jul 2013 #340

Welcome to DU. No. Robb Jul 2013 #341

Here's what you do.... Caretha Jul 2013 #47

That's not really fair to the check out girl or guy jimboss Jul 2013 #86

25 years ago at one of my first jobs someone pulled that crap sweetloukillbot Jul 2013 #132

Punish the checker, who has no input to store policy, tumtum Jul 2013 #213

I'm the manager of Caretha Jul 2013 #258

And the Asshat with a gun loved that you felt like that. Made him feel "big" and you intimidated. Hoyt Jul 2013 #50

I see that on a more or less regular basis in the Four Corners. bluedigger Jul 2013 #59

I was out in the lot long enough to see him Spaldeen Jul 2013 #68

do you feel this paranoid when you merge onto the interstate? Kali Jul 2013 #66

Well, if they feel a need to intimidate people by displaying their gatt in public........ rdharma Jul 2013 #72

gatt? Kali Jul 2013 #79

Do you carry anything? Spaldeen Jul 2013 #82

ppfftt Kali Jul 2013 #93

Sorry, "gat"! rdharma Jul 2013 #85

possibility from personal experience Kali Jul 2013 #107

Really? What would you do? tumtum Jul 2013 #214

Armed nut with a gun? It's LE's duty to check it out! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #219

Not if it's legal to do so. tumtum Jul 2013 #221

Like I said, sounds like Somalia. rdharma Jul 2013 #222

Not a lot of crime here. tumtum Jul 2013 #224

So, there is really no reason to carry into restaurants and grocery stores. rdharma Jul 2013 #229

Why should I have a problem with it? tumtum Jul 2013 #234

Because such a paranoid nutjob could just "go off"! rdharma Jul 2013 #243

You're labeling people who carry guns as paranoid douchebags. tumtum Jul 2013 #245

Pretty much! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #249

You are right, Spaldeen Jul 2013 #81

truth be told Kali Jul 2013 #99

Yeah Spaldeen Jul 2013 #124

I was in a grocery store parking lot pintobean Jul 2013 #84

Did you leave Spaldeen Jul 2013 #98

A monster truck pintobean Jul 2013 #121

! Kali Jul 2013 #165

that guy that shows up at the public meeting all irrational and claiming god's right to do whatever Kali Jul 2013 #110

This thread has made you personally angry DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #158

huh? Kali Jul 2013 #163

Stupid analogy alert! Doctor_J Jul 2013 #263

not really stupid Kali Jul 2013 #275

It is accurate pintobean Jul 2013 #289

A holstered gun and parked car? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #293

Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation pasto76 Jul 2013 #74

+1000 ^^^^^^^ rdharma Jul 2013 #76

Where I live, Detectives open carry all the time. tumtum Jul 2013 #217

This is an easy one... you're in the grip of an irrational fear. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #83

No fear here. Just pissed off at the paranoid nut job for being an armed a-hole. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #96

Moreover, a person can't take away your right to free speech. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #140

You over reacted. rrneck Jul 2013 #103

The paranoid a-hole that feels the need to open carry is the one who needs help. rdharma Jul 2013 #114

That's a fine Zimmerman move. You're learning. rrneck Jul 2013 #116

Nope. The "Zimmerman move" is carrying a gat because he's a coward..... rdharma Jul 2013 #120

He called the cops on suspicious people all the time. rrneck Jul 2013 #122

He carried a gun to compensate for his paranoid fear...... rdharma Jul 2013 #127

Absolutely! rrneck Jul 2013 #133

I'd rather have one of Aunt B's cherry pies! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #139

I bet you would. rrneck Jul 2013 #151

I don't hunt them..... in fact I haven't seen any since I moved here. rdharma Jul 2013 #155

Absolutely. rrneck Jul 2013 #159

As they should...... rdharma Jul 2013 #162

Yep. Good thing we have you to keep up with those kind of people. rrneck Jul 2013 #166

Somebody has to do it ....... or they'll just keep behaving like jerks. rdharma Jul 2013 #167

Yeah, they always get away. rrneck Jul 2013 #168

FWIW, I prefer the open carry Nevernose Jul 2013 #169

Why do you feel the need to "carry" in public at all? rdharma Jul 2013 #197

If feel the same and I wouldn't go back tblue Jul 2013 #106

they got a new name MisterP Jul 2013 #108

LOL Spaldeen Jul 2013 #111

people wearing guns on their hips (not cops) need to have it shoved sideways up their ass Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #119

When you see someone carrying a gun on their hip (not cops), tumtum Jul 2013 #223

I think I will call 911 if I see someone in a public place carrying a gun. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #135

That is not what is taught in gun safety courses. former9thward Jul 2013 #145

Yes I have and yes it was. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #157

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I took it at "The Firing Line" in Aurora, Co. about 20 years ago. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #271

And if it's legal, the cops will ask if the person is doing anything illegal. tumtum Jul 2013 #226

But what if he's a "bad guy with a gun?" I'm calling. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #233

I've never heard that in any gun safety class. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #274

If you are in a state where it is legal, please record your adventure. Socal31 Jul 2013 #325

I don't understand the opjection to gun safety being taught in a gun safety class. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #329

You obviously don't understand a lot of things about firearms, and there is nothing wrong with that. Socal31 Jul 2013 #330

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #333

Maybe it was a watergun. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #138

The gun toting asshole wore that gun to intimidate you jpak Jul 2013 #141

Don't try to fool us. You want concealed carry to be illegal as well. You're against ALL carry. Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #175

OK - I'm against that too. jpak Jul 2013 #188

Honesty is such a lonely word Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #279

obviously you felt threatened. does your state have a "stand your ground" law? orleans Jul 2013 #146

I would very much like to see your reasons why you think this is so... Pelican Jul 2013 #171

well, isn't that what the stupid fucking "stand your ground" law is all about? orleans Jul 2013 #199

Why don't you tell us what *you* perceive a "stand your ground" law is? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #201

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No, no it isn't... Pelican Jul 2013 #204

Only scared cowards bring guns into grocery stores. Apophis Jul 2013 #172

Somebody posted a picture somewhere complain jane Jul 2013 #173

If enough people complain to the store Politicalboi Jul 2013 #177

They must have sold out of "Princess Tinymeat" t-shirts in your area Tom Ripley Jul 2013 #203

Our local grocery store has a sign on the front door: "NO FIREARMS." hunter Jul 2013 #205

What kind of holster was his firearm in? ileus Jul 2013 #216

Thank GOD I don't live in a CC state Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #218

Yes you do live in a CC state. tumtum Jul 2013 #230

Oh, well, excuse me, Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #232

No need to get nasty. tumtum Jul 2013 #237

You're new, aren't you? Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #238

Yes. Is this a problem? tumtum Jul 2013 #239

You have a vivid imagination. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #241

Just trying to figure out what you meant by asking me if I'm new here tumtum Jul 2013 #242

You thought my rather inocuous reply Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #248

"gun humper" is considered polite speech around here hack89 Jul 2013 #256

I would call the cops on him...right in front of him. gulliver Jul 2013 #227

You "would?" Have you? Will you? nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #301

Honestly, it would actually depend on the situation. gulliver Jul 2013 #303

In any discussion between two people, if one person carries a gun... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #246

Personally, I think people who carry guns in public are paranoid freaks who are best avoided. alarimer Jul 2013 #247

I often carry when.. unclebob Jul 2013 #250

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In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to DainBramaged Jul 2013 #253

One of the problems is Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #257

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The US is now a 3rd world country Doctor_J Jul 2013 #261

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Your back I see. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #264

Hard to say Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #267

Yep! That is why I like these kind of posts. You can flush them out. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #268

You're back again? arcane1 Jul 2013 #265

Can't get enough of us. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #266

To be fair, we are irresistable. arcane1 Jul 2013 #269

Probably from the cave! You know how they can't stop sending their minions. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #270

He's dead, Jim Major Nikon Jul 2013 #272

As I have posted numerous times, Jenoch Jul 2013 #276

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Hey your back! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #281

Not for long! Spazito Jul 2013 #282

He will be back. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #283

Oh yes, I suspect it is a fan of 'galileo'.... Spazito Jul 2013 #286

Yeah saw he is gone. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #288

It was a brief visit. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2013 #284

He will be back. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #285

No doubt. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2013 #287

I saw loads of people OCin this weekend ileus Jul 2013 #290

So, how many did you see? Spaldeen Jul 2013 #295

100 maybe 200....it was a gun show. LOL ileus Jul 2013 #296

Personally people who carry guns are those who are anticipating mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #299

There is an error I wish to point out. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #315

Any civilian, non-LEO who rejects concealed carry in favor of open carry is worthy of suspicion. Paladin Jul 2013 #318

The OP's experience has not happened to me. mick063 Jul 2013 #332

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Weird username... Agschmid Jul 2013 #337

Weird username... Agschmid Jul 2013 #338

I would at least assume they are either constantly afraid, or pretending to be bad-ass. arcane1 Jul 2013 #339