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davidthegnome

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13. FDR, of all people...

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:08 AM

Feb 2012

I wasn't alive during his Presidency, but many have told me that he was one of the greatest (if not the greatest) Presidents in our history. I didn't live during that time, so I can't judge what his reasoning was, why he felt it necessary to sign that order. It just seems so out of character for the man who I've heard so much about.

I've read stories, seen a documentary or two, I have a very vague idea of what happened in those camps. Enough to know it was beyond bad - it was a crime and should be acknowledged as such. Innocent people made to live in little camps, crowded with very poor food and living conditions, treated as if they were the enemy when they had done nothing wrong.

Yes... a dark day in our history, one we cannot afford to ever forget, lest we ever repeat that tragic mistake.

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It was seventy years ago today that America sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps. [View all] Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 OP

we shouldn't have did that limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #1

Did you ever read "Snow Falling on Cedars?" blue neen Feb 2012 #2

I do remember that. Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #3

Theatrical... ellisonz Feb 2012 #21

I am doing a report on this... Kalidurga Feb 2012 #4

While it was wrong, and bad Confusious Feb 2012 #5

THe word fits... BrentWil Feb 2012 #6

Yeah, like natural causes low. Muskypundit Feb 2012 #10

Why not use the word usually used Confusious Feb 2012 #16

it's not anti-American enough to say "internment camp" hfojvt Feb 2012 #32

Is the OP anti-American? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #74

"Internment camp" is to "concentration camp" as "enhanced interrogation" is to "torture." Posteritatis Feb 2012 #44

Sure it is Confusious Feb 2012 #45

In fact, most German concentration camps were not "death camps". Bonobo Feb 2012 #55

In fact, you have a disingenuous argument Confusious Feb 2012 #65

I smell a person who lost the one prop holding up their argument Bonobo Feb 2012 #67

Again, you're wrong Confusious Feb 2012 #68

Isn't it past your bedtime? nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #69

If it is, then you should have gone to bed Confusious Feb 2012 #70

Not at all. Bonobo Feb 2012 #73

Only in your mind.... Confusious Feb 2012 #75

It was the very definition of a "concentration camp". Bonobo Feb 2012 #7

Then why not use the word usually used Confusious Feb 2012 #15

just came back from Dachau and you're confusing that kind of camp with a death camp CreekDog Mar 2012 #84

As I've said before, and you may have missed Confusious Mar 2012 #85

I keep trying to explain the difference between these camps as they explained them to us CreekDog Mar 2012 #86

You're misrepresenting what I said Confusious Mar 2012 #87

We're just arguing over terminology --but you made a mistake in describing Dachau CreekDog Mar 2012 #88

Much as we may ask pregnant women if they've named the fetus yet? LanternWaste Feb 2012 #46

? blue neen Feb 2012 #9

Why do you seem to think I know nothing about it? Confusious Feb 2012 #14

President Roosevelt called them "concentration camps." blue neen Feb 2012 #26

So you're just following Roosevelts example? Confusious Feb 2012 #38

I've done plenty of reading on German concentration camps. blue neen Feb 2012 #50

You're the only one with compassion Confusious Feb 2012 #51

What cross? blue neen Feb 2012 #53

Figure it out. nt Confusious Feb 2012 #72

I notice there is no link for Roosevelt calling them "concentration camps" former9thward Feb 2012 #57

Please notice that there is indeed a link in post #26. blue neen Feb 2012 #58

That is what I'm posting about former9thward Feb 2012 #60

Here's a quote: blue neen Feb 2012 #66

Thanks for the quote! former9thward Feb 2012 #77

The term is probably technically correct, but in the popular mind it's associated with the Nazis RZM Feb 2012 #17

Thank you Confusious Feb 2012 #18

I've usually thought of it the same way RZM Feb 2012 #19

Concentration camp is such a much more straight-forward description than the sanitized indepat Feb 2012 #34

Not really RZM Feb 2012 #37

I guess 2+2=5 Confusious Feb 2012 #39

George Takei mentioned this on Facebook. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #8

Some years ago I worked with a woman who spent her childhood in one of the camps Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #11

reparation and redress dynasaw Feb 2012 #27

He talked about it at a Science Fiction convention I attended 25 years ago. eShirl Feb 2012 #20

while their sons fought, & died, with extraordinary valor, in the US Army .... marasinghe Feb 2012 #12

FDR, of all people... davidthegnome Feb 2012 #13

I'm not defending the order. It was just plain awful. But . . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #22

Let's Get This Straight dynasaw Feb 2012 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #23

Ah, we have Mr. Sensitive here. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #29

Italians and Germans too NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #24

But Italians and Germans had to actually DO something suspicious to be interned Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2012 #28

Except the ones who lived in the Panama Canal Zone Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #56

K&R zoechen Feb 2012 #25

Here's some reading material for you: blue neen Feb 2012 #30

Sure it was. Confusious Feb 2012 #40

One life taken in those camps, whatever YOU choose to call them, was too much. blue neen Feb 2012 #49

Do you ever get any point I'm trying to make? Confusious Feb 2012 #52

What cross? blue neen Feb 2012 #54

Figure it out. nt Confusious Feb 2012 #71

Who is saying they are equal to "The holocaust" (quotes yours) or what happened to NA? uppityperson Feb 2012 #64

yep. I recently spoke to a former internment camp resident. He described how Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #61

This is a history that should be remembered along with the treatment of German Americans. With jwirr Feb 2012 #33

My brother in law was a guard at one of those concentrtion camp. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #35

I used to drive past those camps KurtNYC Feb 2012 #36

That part about the balloons is total BS. hobbit709 Feb 2012 #62

The BS killed 6 in Oregon; stopped a nuclear weapons plant in WA KurtNYC Feb 2012 #78

Prove to me the Japanese knew about the plant. hobbit709 Feb 2012 #79

So who was working in the plant in your theory of history? KurtNYC Feb 2012 #80

And about 99% of them didn't know anything beyond "Top Secret" hobbit709 Feb 2012 #81

The location is quite the museum now. miyazaki Feb 2012 #76

My late wife Another Bill C. Feb 2012 #41

The Counter Point: Historical, Social, and cultural context is IMPORTANT. bvar22 Feb 2012 #42

The OP has only facts (and one opinion) Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #47

The context is important, I agree. And yet... Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #63

And Guantanamo's still open. rug Feb 2012 #43

It wasn't just the internment HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #48

What was the mentality of people in Germany? Boojatta Feb 2012 #82

All I know is what I've read HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #83

Interesting sidenote: the RW governor of Hawaii decided not to inter Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #59