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104. I know we don't agree on many issues around guns and the 2nd

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:43 PM

Jul 2013

Good thing there's more on DU than just those topics.

But I can say that I as a gun owner and ccw holder have also felt uncomfortable around some of my fellow gun owners who improperly carry their guns.

Let me explain. Not using a gun pocket/purse holster/cover to prevent an negligent discharge. (Remember most personal defense handguns don't have external safetys) (the Cumberland count sheriff in charge of the jail almost killed himself when his backup gun (a revolver) placed in a bag had an ink pen thru the trigger guard and fired a round.

Also I'm not a fan of open Cary personally because of the potential for acting people. Yeah I said that. While open city is legal I do know that for people unfamiliar with the law or just an aversion to guns it paralyzes and communication and sharing of ideas between people or interaction.

So yeah open carry legal. But outside of certain circumstances I personally don't do it. (I have ccw and even now there are actually a lot places I can carry that I don't) but yes late night on the road at a gas station you can bet in armed and it will be concealed.

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The grocery store, the gun, and my free speech rights [View all] Spaldeen Jul 2013 OP

How do you know the guy wasn't a LEO? Jenoch Jul 2013 #1

I don't know if he was or not. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #3

Out of curiosity, what state are you in? Jenoch Jul 2013 #5

I am in Missouri Spaldeen Jul 2013 #19

I understand that those without Jenoch Jul 2013 #21

Point taken, Spaldeen Jul 2013 #25

I do not think it would be easier Jenoch Jul 2013 #40

I don't see your point... FLyellowdog Jul 2013 #69

Few guns will go off when they hit the ground. Jenoch Jul 2013 #80

So non-gun owners have the right to have no choice.... daleanime Jul 2013 #136

Huh? Choice of what? Jenoch Jul 2013 #161

Living in a world without cowards. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #180

That makes little sense... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #181

I think Bahr is saying..... Red Mountain Jul 2013 #225

That would be your opinion only, and a bad one at that. tumtum Jul 2013 #228

Typically, if someone is required (or chooses) to not carry... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #297

Last fall I had a gun owner point a high powered hunting rifle at me Fumesucker Jul 2013 #316

Anytime a gun, loaded or not, is pointed at you there is cause for concern... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #317

There's another solution which might be easier than making another law. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #115

It might be easier for you... Pelican Jul 2013 #147

oh it's the zimmerman defender, here to explain everything to us. thanks, zimmy-defender-man! HiPointDem Jul 2013 #31

Please point to any Jenoch Jul 2013 #37

ha HiPointDem Jul 2013 #92

What a brilliant reply. Jenoch Jul 2013 #125

ha-ha. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #128

I just find it kinda funny that your user name is a weapons manufacturer. SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #89

i think you addressed that to the wrong person. my user name is the name of a neighborhood i HiPointDem Jul 2013 #95

No, I addressed it to the right person. I find it funny that you didn't know that SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #102

i'm not interested in guns. i'm interested in neighborhoods, families, people & social conditions. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #109

I don't consider gun manufacturers highly important. Personally, I wouldn't SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #198

"It's really not as big a deal to me as it is to you." says the person who brought it up. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #211

I brought it up as a funny aside. You're the one carying the banner of outrage. SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #113

i find it funny you can't keep the posts straight. in your righteous rush to defend your buddies. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #130

Point taken. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #142

We aren't afraid of the guns, per se. We're afraid of the unhinged, kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #33

I don't make assumptions such as those Jenoch Jul 2013 #58

Oh, I don't assume that about EVERYONE who carries a gun kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #94

I'm not afraid of the guns. I'm afraid of the morons who are so delusional jeff47 Jul 2013 #45

I don't make the assumptions that you seem to. Jenoch Jul 2013 #60

That's your failing. jeff47 Jul 2013 #64

Not a failing, I am just not prone to stereotypes. Jenoch Jul 2013 #70

Yes, it's a failing, and it's aberrant. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #154

I'm simply not afrqid of guns. Jenoch Jul 2013 #164

I'm not afraid of guns so much truebluegreen Jul 2013 #190

Why not? treestar Jul 2013 #195

Your post is why in that particular situation I would keep an eye on the guy with a gun, and Jenoch Jul 2013 #306

It's not a stereotype when you actually know the people jeff47 Jul 2013 #192

You don't see the circular logic in that statement? Pelican Jul 2013 #149

No, because being "afraid of guns" would mean I was afraid of guns wielded by soldiers jeff47 Jul 2013 #294

What about me? Pelican Jul 2013 #305

Thank you for what you do. Jenoch Jul 2013 #307

It depends on why you want that gun on your hip. jeff47 Jul 2013 #319

Ok.. Pelican Jul 2013 #320

So you just believe in fairy tales then? How reassuring. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2013 #323

So... Pelican Jul 2013 #324

Much better things to spend time on. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #56

Much better than learning something that could Jenoch Jul 2013 #63

Or cost your life or the lives of your loved ones primavera Jul 2013 #112

How does taking a gun safety Jenoch Jul 2013 #126

Some people want NOTHING to do with guns. And do not need a class so they have.... Logical Jul 2013 #186

I too have a concealed handgun license, I carry when I leave the house for any reason. tumtum Jul 2013 #208

I do not open carry nor do I have Jenoch Jul 2013 #252

Forcing people who loathe guns to take a gun class? Brigid Jul 2013 #87

Who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything? Jenoch Jul 2013 #123

I understand that those without experience with BSL4 viruses can be fearful of them primavera Jul 2013 #118

I'm not sure Jenoch Jul 2013 #129

Everyone should be fearful of guns and fearful of those who parade them and stroke them, so if some bahrbearian Jul 2013 #179

Would this be an example of an acceptable stereotype? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #182

No, just acceptable and sanctioned on DU. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #298

As I have said several times, Jenoch Jul 2013 #308

I don't think it's the "experience" with guns that's the issue, but the experience with the carrier. MH1 Jul 2013 #187

Unless the guy in the store showed Jenoch Jul 2013 #309

To some, openly carrying a gun in a grocery store MH1 Jul 2013 #321

I would be surprised to Jenoch Jul 2013 #322

In this case, I don't think LWolf Jul 2013 #191

That is why it is Jenoch Jul 2013 #255

You shouldn't assume everyone who is fearful of guns thucythucy Jul 2013 #302

Experience in the manner you suggest Jenoch Jul 2013 #310

I assumed as much thucythucy Jul 2013 #326

Minnesota also allows open carry dflprincess Jul 2013 #49

It sounds like the person Jenoch Jul 2013 #54

It sounds like the person Jenoch Jul 2013 #57

The current law does require a mental health history check dflprincess Jul 2013 #65

I am not aware of all the legal issues involved Jenoch Jul 2013 #73

The conceal carry law requires the check and the form for a permit to carry asks for the information dflprincess Jul 2013 #91

You are painting with a broad brush Jenoch Jul 2013 #312

My own prejudices and the couple people I know who have permits dflprincess Jul 2013 #331

You wrote that Jenoch Jul 2013 #334

If the MMPI wouldn't keep people from getting a permit, why not require it? dflprincess Jul 2013 #342

If the MMPI wouldn't keep people from getting a permit, why not require it?" Jenoch Jul 2013 #343

That really explains it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #311

One way to find out is call 911 and report a suspicious a-hole with a gun. rdharma Jul 2013 #4

Calling the cops with Jenoch Jul 2013 #7

Sure! The charge? rdharma Jul 2013 #9

They don't need a charge. Jenoch Jul 2013 #13

Riiiight! rdharma Jul 2013 #15

I don't have any experience at what? Jenoch Jul 2013 #18

With dealing with a-holes who like to show off their gatt in public. rdharma Jul 2013 #23

You claimed to have some sort of experience Jenoch Jul 2013 #26

Point is ...... I don't need to prove my bona fides to you..... rdharma Jul 2013 #101

Lots of self-declared experts in the Gungeon, and I've noticed something about them. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #183

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #189

No. Not true. Because you can be anybody you want to on the internets. rdharma Jul 2013 #193

Since you've repeatedly advocated deceit on this thread, we've no reason to trust you: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #200

No "deceit here. If I see a nutjob gun exhibitionist, I'm going to report it. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #207

And when asked if they're doing anything illegal, would you lie? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #231

No, I'd just report things as I see them. rdharma Jul 2013 #235

And if it's legal where you are, you'd be making a nuisance call. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #236

No. Not if what I saw was "suspicious"! rdharma Jul 2013 #240

"Yes, Maam ... he's in line at the checkout and is openly carrying a gun." SlimJimmy Jul 2013 #278

You don't happen to belong to a neighborhood watch, do you? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #291

Yup! Great minds think alike.......open carry rdharma Jul 2013 #292

lol TheAmeriCAN Jul 2013 #314

"The cops always assume people are lying "? Sedona Jul 2013 #117

they investigated Trayvon instead of the gun humper Skittles Jul 2013 #174

They investigated Martin Jenoch Jul 2013 #176

"unfortunate incident"? Skittles Jul 2013 #178

No in many states unless you specificly state he is causin an issue they ceonupe Jul 2013 #32

Riiiiight! rdharma Jul 2013 #105

You know, they already tell us to do that when being pulled over! Spaldeen Jul 2013 #11

If it wasn't a LEO, then he got what he wanted. onehandle Jul 2013 #2

I was afraid of that. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #6

I generally just shrug The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10

Ignore them. onehandle Jul 2013 #14

I would have looked at him, Jenoch Jul 2013 #67

And he says, thucythucy Jul 2013 #304

You are showing your prejudice and fear. Jenoch Jul 2013 #313

"If he responded in a manner thucythucy Jul 2013 #327

I seem to be making the same point over and over in this thread. Jenoch Jul 2013 #328

Maybe comment on it treestar Jul 2013 #196

Next time? Just ignore them. tumtum Jul 2013 #209

Even LEO's can make me nervous. Oldtimeralso Jul 2013 #152

Carrying a pistol around in public serves only two purposes theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #244

Just say, "Hey, pal. Sorry about your penis." baldguy Jul 2013 #8

But give him a compliment first..... rdharma Jul 2013 #12

+1000 dflprincess Jul 2013 #51

That's good, but... Contrary1 Jul 2013 #71

In 2010, nearly 6 times more women were shot by husbands, boyfriends, and ex-partners than murdered DainBramaged Jul 2013 #254

Your idea sure would defuse the situation and make the guy in MO MUCH more comfortable. Jenoch Jul 2013 #131

When people do this they just want attention jimboss Jul 2013 #16

I say give 'em some attention by summoning the police. rdharma Jul 2013 #22

I'm not really sure what I would have done jimboss Jul 2013 #35

Yeah. Call a guy with a gun, to investigate, a guy with gun. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #53

Correction: Call a guy/guys with a badge to check out a nut with a gun! rdharma Jul 2013 #55

Because the badge makes it all okay! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #75

I participated in the occupy movement. rdharma Jul 2013 #77

You fixed it for you. You did nothing for me. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #90

As Grumpy Cat would say........ rdharma Jul 2013 #97

I was in a Burger King once, Brigid Jul 2013 #17

Maybe he was like this guy Spaldeen Jul 2013 #20

Possible they went to gun range earlier and didn't want to leave it in the car The Straight Story Jul 2013 #24

Well, I'd have a cop summoned to see if that's the case! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #27

Perhpas we should have cops pat down everyone out to eat The Straight Story Jul 2013 #30

No. Just a-holes who feel the need for open carry. rdharma Jul 2013 #34

Ah. so 'Feel' safe is important, being safe isn't. The Straight Story Jul 2013 #36

No, it doesn't. But neither did your ridiculous suggestion to pat everybody down. rdharma Jul 2013 #41

"I guarantee I won't accept it!" Hence the advocacy of profiling and baseless calls to police. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #202

Profiling? The a-hole is prancing around exhibiting his gun! rdharma Jul 2013 #206

You are from NC right? ceonupe Jul 2013 #39

Wanna bet? I can articulate "my suspicions" pretty well. rdharma Jul 2013 #43

And everytime you call they will record you. ceonupe Jul 2013 #52

I'm not worried about that. I know how the system works. rdharma Jul 2013 #62

I know we don't agree on many issues around guns and the 2nd ceonupe Jul 2013 #104

I guess it would keep cops busy though so robbers, rapists, etc would like it scared people The Straight Story Jul 2013 #78

Yeah. Zimmerman did that a lot too. nt rrneck Jul 2013 #100

He did, didn't he? Funny seeing a DUer endorse that particular practice... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #184

"I can articulate" =lie. tumtum Jul 2013 #210

Luckily I live in a place where the police dispatcher would have explaind our state laws. SQUEE Jul 2013 #134

Luckily I have a way of persuading dispatchers. rdharma Jul 2013 #137

So, you would lie? SQUEE Jul 2013 #143

No. I wouldn't lie. rdharma Jul 2013 #144

You are not as clever as you think. SQUEE Jul 2013 #148

Reporting a suspicious person with a gun is not a criminal act. rdharma Jul 2013 #150

Tiresome SQUEE Jul 2013 #153

Check those powder levels! rdharma Jul 2013 #156

Always, twice actually. SQUEE Jul 2013 #160

George Zimmerman used to do that a lot, too... n/t friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #185

So you see..... it works! rdharma Jul 2013 #194

"Luckily I have a way of persuading dispatchers"=lie. tumtum Jul 2013 #212

"Short of waving a gun around, police won't respond" - What kind of backward place is that?!!!! rdharma Jul 2013 #215

Thanks for the welcome. tumtum Jul 2013 #220

I've seen pro 2A people thrown of DU for purportedly advocating criminal mischief... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #300

paranoid gun humping cowards need them, Brigid Skittles Jul 2013 #42

Gunners wear their billh58 Jul 2013 #28

i recently had the same experience in a store. first time i've ever seen anyone with a handgun HiPointDem Jul 2013 #29

It sounds like we feel the same way about it. Spaldeen Jul 2013 #38

in the moment, nothing, since it's legal. i was trapped in line, next time i'll just leave. in the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #48

I don't know if it would do any good but If enough people jimboss Jul 2013 #61

yes, that might work. private businesses can ban guns. i would like to see that. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #88

I'd feel the same way. I'd feel like anyone who had to arm themselves to go to forestpath Jul 2013 #44

I feel exactly the same way!! truegrit44 Jul 2013 #170

That feeling you have. Robb Jul 2013 #46

Is it similar to the realization. MaineBlueDog Jul 2013 #340

Welcome to DU. No. Robb Jul 2013 #341

Here's what you do.... Caretha Jul 2013 #47

That's not really fair to the check out girl or guy jimboss Jul 2013 #86

25 years ago at one of my first jobs someone pulled that crap sweetloukillbot Jul 2013 #132

Punish the checker, who has no input to store policy, tumtum Jul 2013 #213

I'm the manager of Caretha Jul 2013 #258

And the Asshat with a gun loved that you felt like that. Made him feel "big" and you intimidated. Hoyt Jul 2013 #50

I see that on a more or less regular basis in the Four Corners. bluedigger Jul 2013 #59

I was out in the lot long enough to see him Spaldeen Jul 2013 #68

do you feel this paranoid when you merge onto the interstate? Kali Jul 2013 #66

Well, if they feel a need to intimidate people by displaying their gatt in public........ rdharma Jul 2013 #72

gatt? Kali Jul 2013 #79

Do you carry anything? Spaldeen Jul 2013 #82

ppfftt Kali Jul 2013 #93

Sorry, "gat"! rdharma Jul 2013 #85

possibility from personal experience Kali Jul 2013 #107

Really? What would you do? tumtum Jul 2013 #214

Armed nut with a gun? It's LE's duty to check it out! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #219

Not if it's legal to do so. tumtum Jul 2013 #221

Like I said, sounds like Somalia. rdharma Jul 2013 #222

Not a lot of crime here. tumtum Jul 2013 #224

So, there is really no reason to carry into restaurants and grocery stores. rdharma Jul 2013 #229

Why should I have a problem with it? tumtum Jul 2013 #234

Because such a paranoid nutjob could just "go off"! rdharma Jul 2013 #243

You're labeling people who carry guns as paranoid douchebags. tumtum Jul 2013 #245

Pretty much! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #249

You are right, Spaldeen Jul 2013 #81

truth be told Kali Jul 2013 #99

Yeah Spaldeen Jul 2013 #124

I was in a grocery store parking lot pintobean Jul 2013 #84

Did you leave Spaldeen Jul 2013 #98

A monster truck pintobean Jul 2013 #121

! Kali Jul 2013 #165

that guy that shows up at the public meeting all irrational and claiming god's right to do whatever Kali Jul 2013 #110

This thread has made you personally angry DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #158

huh? Kali Jul 2013 #163

Stupid analogy alert! Doctor_J Jul 2013 #263

not really stupid Kali Jul 2013 #275

It is accurate pintobean Jul 2013 #289

A holstered gun and parked car? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #293

Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation pasto76 Jul 2013 #74

+1000 ^^^^^^^ rdharma Jul 2013 #76

Where I live, Detectives open carry all the time. tumtum Jul 2013 #217

This is an easy one... you're in the grip of an irrational fear. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #83

No fear here. Just pissed off at the paranoid nut job for being an armed a-hole. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #96

Moreover, a person can't take away your right to free speech. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #140

You over reacted. rrneck Jul 2013 #103

The paranoid a-hole that feels the need to open carry is the one who needs help. rdharma Jul 2013 #114

That's a fine Zimmerman move. You're learning. rrneck Jul 2013 #116

Nope. The "Zimmerman move" is carrying a gat because he's a coward..... rdharma Jul 2013 #120

He called the cops on suspicious people all the time. rrneck Jul 2013 #122

He carried a gun to compensate for his paranoid fear...... rdharma Jul 2013 #127

Absolutely! rrneck Jul 2013 #133

I'd rather have one of Aunt B's cherry pies! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #139

I bet you would. rrneck Jul 2013 #151

I don't hunt them..... in fact I haven't seen any since I moved here. rdharma Jul 2013 #155

Absolutely. rrneck Jul 2013 #159

As they should...... rdharma Jul 2013 #162

Yep. Good thing we have you to keep up with those kind of people. rrneck Jul 2013 #166

Somebody has to do it ....... or they'll just keep behaving like jerks. rdharma Jul 2013 #167

Yeah, they always get away. rrneck Jul 2013 #168

FWIW, I prefer the open carry Nevernose Jul 2013 #169

Why do you feel the need to "carry" in public at all? rdharma Jul 2013 #197

If feel the same and I wouldn't go back tblue Jul 2013 #106

they got a new name MisterP Jul 2013 #108

LOL Spaldeen Jul 2013 #111

people wearing guns on their hips (not cops) need to have it shoved sideways up their ass Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #119

When you see someone carrying a gun on their hip (not cops), tumtum Jul 2013 #223

I think I will call 911 if I see someone in a public place carrying a gun. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #135

That is not what is taught in gun safety courses. former9thward Jul 2013 #145

Yes I have and yes it was. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #157

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I took it at "The Firing Line" in Aurora, Co. about 20 years ago. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #271

And if it's legal, the cops will ask if the person is doing anything illegal. tumtum Jul 2013 #226

But what if he's a "bad guy with a gun?" I'm calling. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #233

I've never heard that in any gun safety class. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #274

If you are in a state where it is legal, please record your adventure. Socal31 Jul 2013 #325

I don't understand the opjection to gun safety being taught in a gun safety class. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #329

You obviously don't understand a lot of things about firearms, and there is nothing wrong with that. Socal31 Jul 2013 #330

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #333

Maybe it was a watergun. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #138

The gun toting asshole wore that gun to intimidate you jpak Jul 2013 #141

Don't try to fool us. You want concealed carry to be illegal as well. You're against ALL carry. Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #175

OK - I'm against that too. jpak Jul 2013 #188

Honesty is such a lonely word Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #279

obviously you felt threatened. does your state have a "stand your ground" law? orleans Jul 2013 #146

I would very much like to see your reasons why you think this is so... Pelican Jul 2013 #171

well, isn't that what the stupid fucking "stand your ground" law is all about? orleans Jul 2013 #199

Why don't you tell us what *you* perceive a "stand your ground" law is? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #201

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No, no it isn't... Pelican Jul 2013 #204

Only scared cowards bring guns into grocery stores. Apophis Jul 2013 #172

Somebody posted a picture somewhere complain jane Jul 2013 #173

If enough people complain to the store Politicalboi Jul 2013 #177

They must have sold out of "Princess Tinymeat" t-shirts in your area Tom Ripley Jul 2013 #203

Our local grocery store has a sign on the front door: "NO FIREARMS." hunter Jul 2013 #205

What kind of holster was his firearm in? ileus Jul 2013 #216

Thank GOD I don't live in a CC state Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #218

Yes you do live in a CC state. tumtum Jul 2013 #230

Oh, well, excuse me, Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #232

No need to get nasty. tumtum Jul 2013 #237

You're new, aren't you? Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #238

Yes. Is this a problem? tumtum Jul 2013 #239

You have a vivid imagination. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #241

Just trying to figure out what you meant by asking me if I'm new here tumtum Jul 2013 #242

You thought my rather inocuous reply Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #248

"gun humper" is considered polite speech around here hack89 Jul 2013 #256

I would call the cops on him...right in front of him. gulliver Jul 2013 #227

You "would?" Have you? Will you? nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #301

Honestly, it would actually depend on the situation. gulliver Jul 2013 #303

In any discussion between two people, if one person carries a gun... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #246

Personally, I think people who carry guns in public are paranoid freaks who are best avoided. alarimer Jul 2013 #247

I often carry when.. unclebob Jul 2013 #250

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In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to DainBramaged Jul 2013 #253

One of the problems is Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #257

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The US is now a 3rd world country Doctor_J Jul 2013 #261

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Your back I see. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #264

Hard to say Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #267

Yep! That is why I like these kind of posts. You can flush them out. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #268

You're back again? arcane1 Jul 2013 #265

Can't get enough of us. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #266

To be fair, we are irresistable. arcane1 Jul 2013 #269

Probably from the cave! You know how they can't stop sending their minions. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #270

He's dead, Jim Major Nikon Jul 2013 #272

As I have posted numerous times, Jenoch Jul 2013 #276

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Hey your back! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #281

Not for long! Spazito Jul 2013 #282

He will be back. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #283

Oh yes, I suspect it is a fan of 'galileo'.... Spazito Jul 2013 #286

Yeah saw he is gone. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #288

It was a brief visit. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2013 #284

He will be back. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #285

No doubt. Lone_Star_Dem Jul 2013 #287

I saw loads of people OCin this weekend ileus Jul 2013 #290

So, how many did you see? Spaldeen Jul 2013 #295

100 maybe 200....it was a gun show. LOL ileus Jul 2013 #296

Personally people who carry guns are those who are anticipating mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #299

There is an error I wish to point out. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #315

Any civilian, non-LEO who rejects concealed carry in favor of open carry is worthy of suspicion. Paladin Jul 2013 #318

The OP's experience has not happened to me. mick063 Jul 2013 #332

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Weird username... Agschmid Jul 2013 #337

Weird username... Agschmid Jul 2013 #338

I would at least assume they are either constantly afraid, or pretending to be bad-ass. arcane1 Jul 2013 #339