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jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
21. My best somewhat quick attempt
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:29 AM
Feb 2012

it really depends on a person's reasons for being a vegan/vegetarian.

Many people do it for health reasons - there may be no change for this population.

Some do it, for, as you say, sustainability reasons. I would think this would very much address these concerns. Factory farming is incredibly damaging to the environment - manure disposal systems are inadequate, unsuccessful, are so unholy as to have produced exploding pig shit foam, and are generally environmental ticking time bombs (they leak). Factory farmed animals consume huge quantities of crops, most of which are lost to excretion. The same area of land or volume of crops can feed many more people when consumed directly (vegans/vegetarians) than can be fed when strained through a pig or cow. Meat in a test tube is unlikely to require constant feeding... Even the fossil fuels used for transportation of factory farmed products, as you hint at, should be cut down. Because the geographical constraints on a lab are not the same as the constraints on where you can set up a factory farm.

People who are vegan/vegetarian for fashionable reasons - you know, the truth is that I thought lots of those existed, but since I've gone vegetarian, I don't think I've met a one. If they do exist, I generally just am glad they are eating that way, and move along.

I think a huge percentage of vegans and vegetarians have a more straightforward goal: the attempt to not contribute to animal suffering.

And what I see described - now depending on how it plays out - really seems like something that would entirely, or almost entirely, cut out animal suffering. It's not that there are animal products involved that many of us object to. It's the suffering that the animals involved would have gone through to feed us. I pointed out in another post what a stunning percentage of the pig (around 70%), cow (around 80%), and chicken (a few more players, but among those ten, 75%) markets are dominated by a few factory farming players. You eat those things, by and large, you're eating cruelty.

So what I'm getting at here is that for people like myself, definitions are the last damn thing I am concerned with. Nothing suffered and not a single animal was killed for this meal? Let's eat. Animals stuck in intolerable conditions that you and I couldn't handle for even a few hours, killed in a terrifying, inhumane manner, living in filthy conditions, producing a dangerous product - no thank you.

I hope that gives you some perspective. I'm by no means an expert, having only been a vegetarian for 3 plus years. But yes, I think if this worked out well, it could be very promising.

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Cue the inevitable howls of outrage and disgust. Still, I think this is good news. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #1
It's a reasonable goal ... surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #2
You'll never get there if you don't take the first step. /nt TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #19
Lab grown meat is not nearly as gross as this. Zalatix Feb 2012 #13
Bingo - and I was going to post about exploding pig manure foam jsmirman Feb 2012 #15
Good! silverweb Feb 2012 #3
I think I'll stick to my shitburger, arigatou Gabi Hayes Feb 2012 #4
As horrendous as that sounds Zalatix Feb 2012 #12
There's potential here. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #5
Hamburgers don't grow on trees you know. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #6
You couldn't get past the yuck factor of factory farmed meat jsmirman Feb 2012 #14
I'll have a soylent burger with a side of soylent fries and a soylent cola. Initech Feb 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #25
If they can replace meat from animals with this it would Liquorice Feb 2012 #8
This is the eventuality. joshcryer Feb 2012 #9
Fantastic! nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #10
Cool! Meat a vegan could eat! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #11
Could they? quakerboy Feb 2012 #16
Are you really asking? jsmirman Feb 2012 #18
I am really asking quakerboy Feb 2012 #20
My best somewhat quick attempt jsmirman Feb 2012 #21
Oh, and just so you know - nutrition/taste/etc. jsmirman Feb 2012 #22
Do you want test tube fries with that order? nt Speck Tater Feb 2012 #17
My guess is that the real cost quaker bill Feb 2012 #23
How much energy is used in this process? MadHound Feb 2012 #24
For this research stage, sure; but potentially it should be a lot less muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #27
Think Space Travel .... a food replicator Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #26
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