Did Zimmerman put hands on Martin first?

[John2]

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county sheriff? I wonder if you were a county sheriff in North Carolina? Your comment about people carrying loaded hand guns was correct after I researched it. You have to forgive me, even though I'm a military veteran, I'm not a gun nut. I didn't think I would be fighting in a War zone in the U.S. And I have had run ins with certain rambos playing cop, after they left service. I know exactly the type because I had to supervise them. Especially when they take that attitude into African American neighborhoods, so you are not fooling me. I've had to contain my cool with these idiots.

I didn't realize gun nuts were that paranoid, because ever sense I left the military, I have not found a reason to carry a gun, but with nuts like Zimmerman and these other gun nuts, I guess I better to even the odds, just in case. It doesn't matter the type of gun, all you have do is know how to use it and shoot it. The results are the same. It just takes one shot. I guess that was Trayvon's mistake, to think he could peacefully walk to a store without getting bothered by paranoid nuts like Zimmerman. I've never advocated young African Americans buying guns, but with people like Zimmerman and the attitude comming from these Rambo types, that might be the only solution? What do you think?

As far as Zimmerman goes, he had a criminal record of violence, and the police knew it. Sure he got out of getting convictions through plea bargaining and friends through the police but he had a history of violence. So he was capable of gunning down Trayvon as the Aggressor. So it depends on who is wearing the badge, don't you think? Some people shouldn't be wearing a badge. Some of the biggest racists hide behind badges. I've thought about the run ins I've had with some of them, the only difference is they hide behind the law. And there are plenty in North Carolina. The same assholes that repealed the Racial Justice Act in North Carolina.

I don't think anybody will follow me even if you told them it was legal, or they will find themselves having a problem in court. if I feel they are a threat to me, then they will have even a bigger problem. I don't care who you are, you better state your business if you plan on following me.

Now to Mr Zimmerman. Zimmerman broke rules. He was told never to pursue anyone by Community watch and the head of that association which is a retired Law Enforcement officer stated that. It also states the same requirements for guns and being a member of community watch. It placed emphasis on they are not police officers. So just like he got away with other abuses, he is being excused here. He knew the rules even before that 911 operator advised him not to do so.

The man is a liar, just like all gun nuts, and physcopaths. I'll throw today's racists in that group also. They can't help themselves. It gives them a sense of power over people they think is weak. Some people don't turn the other cheek thugh like me.

So you got this pyschopathic liar, who shouldn't have had a gun in the first place, if the police did their jobs, roaming the residence as community watch captain. Yeah, the same person that had a republican Judge Nelson and every rightwing gun nut claims "run of the Mill," incidents, such as assault against a police officer and domestic violence against a female.They are very strict in North Carolina when it comes to assaulting a female.

You also have another incident of alleged violence shoved under the table by the police,rearending another motorist because he got angry about him spitting gum out his window. Zimmerman was the person called the police and thought the man would get away. The police didn't file charges because the man claimed Zimmerman rear ended his car, all the way to his parking garage. He tailgated that man all the way to his house and the man thought he was crazy. Zimmerman's excuse was the man spitted on his car. Does that sound like a person capable of hunting down Trayvon Martin because he thought he might get away with something? A person like that follow me with a gun, I'm going to have my own gun. They hide behind the law and the law protects them.

So this predator or terrorist hides behind the laws and the police protect's him. They try to get in law enforcement, so they can prey on innocent people. What his cousin reportedly said is very interesting, regarding race and some of his family members. She claims that he was selective about which Blacks to be friends with. Those that act white according to her. The FBI needs to have a talk with her. Racists are very clever these days and adjust, to be more deceptive. Just because they befriend a ClarenceThomas does not mean they aren't racist. Even Confederate Officers took their Black attendents with them to battle.

I can really have a long talk with you though on certain matters, since we come from different perspectives. I'm familiar with both typesTrayvons and the Zimmermans. Trayvon Martin don't even have a violent criminal record. The only violent record he has now, was given by George Zimmerman and his supporters.

I'm going to give you one case, for you to research. That is right, I'm going to let you do the work. I'm particular about who I do work for. Mixon versus Sate in 1952 concerning self defense and initial aggressor. I've found many mre cases but I will keep them in reserve. If you are not satisfied with that case then I'll feed you more to look up.