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pipi_k

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69. I'm

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:40 PM

Jul 2013

"not fooling" you?

Sorry. Don't know what you mean by that.

If you want to have a serious discussion, then please explain.

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A tale of two hoodies (wow) [View all] TalkingDog Jul 2013 OP

That's certainly the way a lot of people here think it went down XemaSab Jul 2013 #1

I used to respect what you wrote. It has been amazing what I've read during Zimmy Dayz uppityperson Jul 2013 #2

There's some devil's advocacy on my part, I'll admit that XemaSab Jul 2013 #6

TM hadn't played football for yrs and was not "a boxer" and claiming things that aren't real is uppityperson Jul 2013 #9

Yeah, Trayvon wasn't a boxer, hadn't played peewee football IN 5 YEARS Ecumenist Jul 2013 #14

I totally agree that the police response was 100% racist XemaSab Jul 2013 #22

There should not have been any reasonable doubt zimmerman was lying thru his teeth brush Jul 2013 #38

I dunno how "justice" works in your ideal world XemaSab Jul 2013 #50

Where's the evidence on the body? brush Jul 2013 #58

you're heaven05 Jul 2013 #61

Actually, I thought Z was 110% guilty until the trial XemaSab Jul 2013 #66

please heaven05 Jul 2013 #71

Wow, it's amazing! XemaSab Jul 2013 #75

Oh heaven05 Jul 2013 #79

Yes or no? XemaSab Jul 2013 #81

no heaven05 Jul 2013 #84

Why don't you answer yes or no brush Jul 2013 #147

Produce the article John2 Jul 2013 #98

She told a totally different story after she got off the stand XemaSab Jul 2013 #100

Why are you such a huge zimmerman supporter? brush Jul 2013 #149

AMEN! AMEN! nt brush Jul 2013 #148

From Oakland, huh? Aquavit Jul 2013 #116

The photos I have seen of the back of Z's jacket show no dirt, mud or grass stains.. same for the secondwind Jul 2013 #117

The ballistics expert, as I understand it, only gave one scenario. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #118

and I guess he had to get shot point blank in the heart Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2013 #160

Where should he have fired that warning shot...? Pelican Jul 2013 #165

Anywhere other than in Trayvon. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #173

Please be more specific... Pelican Jul 2013 #178

The street if possible. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #179

Where it would ricochet into the straight block inhabited homes... Pelican Jul 2013 #181

You think it is better that Trayvon was murdered? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #183

I think all "warning shots" and "shots to the arm or leg" are idiotic and dangerous... Pelican Jul 2013 #185

So it was a good thing he fired at Trayvon? Just answer the question. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #186

The jury should have had no doubt that zimmerman was lying brush Jul 2013 #146

I am sick of these women that found Zimmerman innocent and continue to rationalize it here at DU nt populistdriven Jul 2013 #107

It also sickens me that many of these women are mothers unapatriciated Jul 2013 #120

cheers! populistdriven Jul 2013 #187

Can you John2 Jul 2013 #86

9:55 in the video XemaSab Jul 2013 #91

I appreciate... Unca Jim Jul 2013 #105

He got off because the jury believed brush Jul 2013 #152

and if Zimmerman hadn't killed him and Trayvon was charged with assault? yurbud Jul 2013 #176

+1 fortyfeetunder Jul 2013 #114

The problem ctsnowman Jul 2013 #124

If Trayvon threw a punch is was because he was defending himself against a guy who was lumpy Jul 2013 #73

Catch this from "The Birdcage"? SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #110

agree 1000% with you too. okieinpain Jul 2013 #135

yeah heaven05 Jul 2013 #20

I get what you're saying here... pipi_k Jul 2013 #27

Check out post #38 brush Jul 2013 #41

If Trayvon Martin hadn't been killed pipi_k Jul 2013 #67

Why not? Iggo Jul 2013 #74

Do you think zimmerman is? brush Jul 2013 #76

you're heaven05 Jul 2013 #63

I'm pipi_k Jul 2013 #69

But you don't know that Martin got violent. He had no DNA, no blood, nothing of Zimmerman on him. Maraya1969 Jul 2013 #95

I wish you'd given that evidence of Trayvon's choices to the prosecution SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #111

agree 1000%. great post. n/t. okieinpain Jul 2013 #131

Trayvon was a teenager and probably reacted the way many guys would as teens yurbud Jul 2013 #174

I agree Marrah_G Jul 2013 #46

Really? That a cop with a KKK hood on shot and killed... Rex Jul 2013 #7

Yeah obxhead Jul 2013 #109

The word think should not be applied to that hyperbolic crap... Pelican Jul 2013 #133

I hope George Zimmerman never has a moment's peace for the rest of his life. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #3

I feel exactly the same way. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #5

Except swing first Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #8

No evidence of that. uppityperson Jul 2013 #10

No evidence either way. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #11

True. uppityperson Jul 2013 #12

And yet ornotna Jul 2013 #16

What? heaven05 Jul 2013 #23

I think one has to suspend Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #30

I heaven05 Jul 2013 #31

You're saying common sense has Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #35

nope heaven05 Jul 2013 #49

You seem to kkknow a lot about me Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #52

you're heaven05 Jul 2013 #54

That I'm what? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #56

It is somewhat self-serving to conflate "common sense" and "my opinion" LanternWaste Jul 2013 #150

There shouldn't have been a question who swung first or not, that would have been speculation. lumpy Jul 2013 #85

Well, Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #88

If someone is thrown to the ground/sat upon? The act itself is not an act of agression? lumpy Jul 2013 #93

No. That's not what I'm saying Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #96

as long as we are speculating unapatriciated Jul 2013 #121

I'm trying hard Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #123

Why do you feel my comment requires a smart ass response? unapatriciated Jul 2013 #125

Sorry, Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #127

It might have to do with the failure of the police department unapatriciated Jul 2013 #134

I think most agree Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #136

Please do not assume I think this was a conspiracy between prosecution and the police. unapatriciated Jul 2013 #138

I appreciate the clarification Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #140

Why is it that TM has to leave, why do we not place the burden on WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #119

Zimmerman is not a mastermind Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #122

The judgment of a 17yr old and a 30 something adult are very different. unapatriciated Jul 2013 #126

Please read my response #96 Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #128

For the record, don't buy TM was looking for trouble. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #188

You want evidence that zimmerman was lying brush Jul 2013 #153

You're putting a lot of fact and faith into Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #159

My point is the jury should brush Jul 2013 #164

I feel for you. I really do. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #167

Don't feel for me. Feel for Trayvon Martin brush Jul 2013 #171

The prosecution failed Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #175

It was an imperfect storm of failures brush Jul 2013 #177

How? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #180

Agreed Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #184

how heaven05 Jul 2013 #21

Jeantel was a witness XemaSab Jul 2013 #26

I'm heaven05 Jul 2013 #28

I'm not on Zimmerman's side in this at all XemaSab Jul 2013 #37

Well,I'm going John2 Jul 2013 #103

You know what, John2 Jul 2013 #137

Jantel wasn't there brush Jul 2013 #154

those heaven05 Jul 2013 #33

Were you there Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #39

never heaven05 Jul 2013 #47

"Never said I was" Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #48

well heaven05 Jul 2013 #53

Oh my god what a fucking stupid statement. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #24

Check out post #38 if you think Martin swung brush Jul 2013 #42

Trayvon did have scratches on his knuckles Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #55

One scratch on a knuckle is what the body had brush Jul 2013 #60

So now you are conceding Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #62

Which does not show: AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #129

Yes, the case did not hinge on the scratch Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #130

38? AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #132

Yes. This is a discussion from #42 per 38 Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #139

You know what's got me Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #142

I'll have to review it. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #143

No, it was in the trial for sure Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #145

Not conceding anything brush Jul 2013 #155

Please see #142 Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #158

Which bridge Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #161

Take your pick. But the 59th St. one is particullarly appealing brush Jul 2013 #162

You mean the Ed Koch Bridge Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #163

It connects Queens and Manhattan brush Jul 2013 #166

I've lived in the city for 14 years Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #168

A fellow New Yorker. Greetings. nt brush Jul 2013 #169

Indeed Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #170

I believe Trayvon had one tiny scratch on his pinky finger. lumpy Jul 2013 #89

Here is somthing from daily kos Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #92

I heard the autopsy report during the triall that the abrasion on the finger was as I described. lumpy Jul 2013 #94

Great post. Let's see what the zim apologists say about this. nt brush Jul 2013 #156

That was not fully determined to everyones satisfaction. lumpy Jul 2013 #78

That's a fair point Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #80

Perhaps, justice would be the rest of his life being extremely short, ending as Trayvon Martin's... Deuce Jul 2013 #40

So you are advocating murder Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #59

Do you consider Trayvon Martin's death murder? Deuce Jul 2013 #68

Nice try. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #72

You characterized Tray Martin's death as murder, was he murdered? Deuce Jul 2013 #77

I did not. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #82

But lets dissolve to the chase Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #83

Exactly what i stated in my original post... Deuce Jul 2013 #87

Then the question is Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #90

From your keyboard... Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #45

he is a sociopath Skittles Jul 2013 #104

because what could possibly go wrong with... 0rganism Jul 2013 #172

Chilling. n/t demmiblue Jul 2013 #4

Too many days in court were spent hashing asjr Jul 2013 #13

Who fixed it and why? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #15

oh please. heaven05 Jul 2013 #19

Are you really that stupid? Zoeisright Jul 2013 #25

Are you really that smart? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #32

Check out post #38 brush Jul 2013 #44

And zimshit should have looked FAR worse for wear...MORE like this: Ecumenist Jul 2013 #17

whoa! heaven05 Jul 2013 #18

wow, just wow. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #29

Brilliant. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #34

Incredible. mzmolly Jul 2013 #36

No need to disparage a cop, but the hoods are perfect Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #43

stupid picture. police didn't shoot him, klansman didn't shoot him, and he wasn't 8 years old. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #51

Analogies and Metaphors. If you don't know what those are a dictonary might help. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #57

i know what analogies and metaphors are, thank you very much. i also know when they're HiPointDem Jul 2013 #64

demagoguery? heaven05 Jul 2013 #65

i'm not a zim apologist at all. i think he's a murderer. i think he targeted martin because martin HiPointDem Jul 2013 #99

That is very powerful! ananda Jul 2013 #70

Who wore a hoodie ? dusty trails Jul 2013 #97

That's just funny right there Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #102

Powerful! Scurrilous Jul 2013 #101

Stark and chilling portrayal of a sinister reality that lurks indepat Jul 2013 #106

Whaddaya know. KKK now allows half-Hispanics to become members Joe Hyperion Jul 2013 #108

intersting heaven05 Jul 2013 #112

A sad companion piece to Rockwell's Ruby Bridges painting. intheflow Jul 2013 #113

A difference worth mentioning is that one painting is fact, and the other is fiction... n/t cigsandcoffee Jul 2013 #144

True. intheflow Jul 2013 #151

whoa - awesome. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #115

Wow. Rec'd n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #141

Bamb in the face uponit7771 Jul 2013 #157

Poignant! arthritisR_US Jul 2013 #182