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In reply to the discussion: Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)50. Don't you ever get dizzy from all the spinning?
I posted other examples above,
but ALL I need is one example to completely discredit your premise.
The DoJ has the freedom to chose ,
and White House Policy CAN be determined by what they choose to fight.
In THIS case, the White House is fighting FOR the Power to Spy on Americans without a Warrant,
and retroactive immunity for the Telecoms.
You said:
[font color=red]"These attempts to vilify Obama are contradicted by the reality at every turn.
So will you admit that in directing the DoJ to stop defending DADT Obama did the right thing?
Will you admit that you have no idea whether Obama directed the DoJ to defend Warrantless Wiretapping?
No, of course you can't. Your desire to believe he's the bad guy won't let you."
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So will you admit that in directing the DoJ to stop defending DADT Obama did the right thing?
Will you admit that you have no idea whether Obama directed the DoJ to defend Warrantless Wiretapping?
No, of course you can't. Your desire to believe he's the bad guy won't let you."
The above is an Ad Hominem Logical Fallacy commonly used when someone loses an argument.
Your statement also contains two completely fabricated Falsehoods.
FAIL.
I have never mentioned President Obama,
and have discussed the facts and policy ONLY.
It YOU have decided that a truthful presentation of the FACTS are an attack on the President,
that is YOUR problem.
Let us apply the Bullshit Detector.
If the Bush White House was fighting for the Power to Spy On Americans without a Warrant,
and retroactive Immunity for the Telecoms,
would you be saying:
"Just doing their job folks.
Nothing to see here.
Purely routine."
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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Obama Administration Asks Supreme Court to Dismiss ACLU Challenge to Warrantless Wiretapping Law! [View all]
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
OP
True but since our rights are surrendered for us and sometimes done so covertly
TheKentuckian
Feb 2012
#4
Heh, even Saint Dennis Kucinich voted for H. J. Res. 64 which enabled warrentless wiretapping.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#16
Do you seek out negative Obama/Democrat articles or are they sent to you?
great white snark
Feb 2012
#13
Maybe he is just looking for pro-democracy and pro-civil rights articles.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2012
#15
Do you have an opinion on the article or would you rather engage in drive-by personal attacks?
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#17
What if the ACLU lost this case? Wouldn't it then become permanent as opposed to the possibility
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#18
Doesn't have anything to do with liberalism. That's besides the point anyway.
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#26
Yeah, the conservatives are going to come down hard against a warrantless wiretapping bill..
Fumesucker
Feb 2012
#45
I thought this has been litigated during the Bush era already. BTW, the White House doesn't...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#22
Remember how everyone was upset when Bush/Cheney got Republicans hired into the DOJ....
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#27
Right and the POTUS gains nothing by simply having the DOJ roll over on the case
treestar
Feb 2012
#41
Everybody knows the ACLU is jampacked with troublemaking "professional leftists".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#32
They want selective justice. If a Republican didn't challenge some despotic law...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#47