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35. As one who has falsely been called a "hater" because I have dared to criticize the President...

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:18 PM

Jul 2013

... in some areas, let me say unequivocally that I thought his remarks on this case were pitch perfect. (Still doesn't mean I agree with him on drones, prosecuting whistleblowers, etc.)

But do be careful with that one-size-fits-all "hater" label you find so convenient to apply.

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Tavis Smiley On Obama's Trayvon Martin Speech: 'He Was Pushed To That Podium' (VIDEO) [View all] WillyT Jul 2013 OP

i don't agree CatWoman Jul 2013 #1

Hey Cat... I Don't Necessarily Agree, But... Since I Was Basically Accused Of Being A Racist... WillyT Jul 2013 #12

Why are you avoiding my questions regarding your post on that thread? msanthrope Jul 2013 #16

What I Was Saying... WillyT Jul 2013 #20

I do not find your explanation credible. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #91

Well No Shit Sherlock... WillyT Jul 2013 #92

I smear you? No, I think your original post and your explanation of said msanthrope Jul 2013 #93

How do you know this? How do you know how much Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #160

Why do you find it objectionable? It is an opinion that is all. Why are opinions that sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #141

Sabrina, I don't answer your questions. If you have a question about a word I've used, there msanthrope Jul 2013 #145

Your opinions on other people's opinions are listed on Google? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #148

Oh give it up. Your reaction to that speech was to try to come up with a way geek tragedy Jul 2013 #36

Did You See Post #20 ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #41

Willy Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #59

So Is Yours... WillyT Jul 2013 #74

What the fuck does your asinine theory that Obama isn't 'tough enough' geek tragedy Jul 2013 #96

I Honestly Answered A Question Asked Of Me... WillyT Jul 2013 #101

Cool story bro. Not fooling anyone. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #104

Well Hell Dude... Take Your Swings... The Fact That This Story... WillyT Jul 2013 #108

Funny, all the stories I've seen involve the reaction of Trayvon's parents to Obama's geek tragedy Jul 2013 #110

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #112

And What... It Shouldn't Be Discussed Here ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #113

Got your hand caught in the race troll cookie jar, and now playing the victim. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #117

That is a personal attack. Please explain what was wrong about Willy's opinion? I did not read his sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #143

Tavis does not represent all black people: In fact, he is a well known Obama hater and basher HipChick Jul 2013 #2

thank you CatWoman Jul 2013 #3

Rightly characterized on Twitter as the "Statler and Waldorf" CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #4

Yep...I hate the way people dig them out as if their opinion counts for anything.. HipChick Jul 2013 #6

They trot out Smiley and West CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #7

and would it hurt Cornel West to buy a bloody comb?????? CatWoman Jul 2013 #9

He definitely needs a makeover. nt brush Jul 2013 #13

good comparison KittyWampus Jul 2013 #11

Exactly! And ProSense Jul 2013 #23

they are on chicago`s progressive station on sunday afternoon. madrchsod Jul 2013 #84

i second that. brush Jul 2013 #5

Hater and basher? burnodo Jul 2013 #26

You don't know the backstory. Read it before Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #161

Thank you. All you have to do is look at the responses at the black posters in this thread Number23 Jul 2013 #51

Question: How Does One Determine That A DUer Is Black ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #53

lol Yeah, I believe someone thought you were black. Yeah, okay. Number23 Jul 2013 #56

Really ??? - Name All The Blacks On DU... Can You Get Past 20 ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #58

It would be hard to get past 20. And we all know how broken up you'd be about that. Number23 Jul 2013 #61

You Assume Much... WillyT Jul 2013 #70

being related to a black person does not make one informed on black issues. kwassa Jul 2013 #103

I Agree... Therefore... One Should Examine Respected Leader's Opinions... WillyT Jul 2013 #119

I haven't asked you for anything. Number23 Jul 2013 #114

Hey WillyT, tblue Jul 2013 #127

Thank You For The Much Needed Dose Of Sanity... WillyT Jul 2013 #133

Stop being coy and just call him a racist Union Scribe Jul 2013 #102

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #116

No one, including me, knows what you're talking about. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #124

Of course you don't. The lone voice supporting an OP panicking about riots after the Zim Number23 Jul 2013 #128

That's a lot of bullshit for one post. Are you tired? Union Scribe Jul 2013 #135

You apparently believe the point of a discussion board is to needlessly harass people that Number23 Jul 2013 #137

For someone who "ignores" me "fully. completely" Union Scribe Jul 2013 #142

Oh, and (thank God above) I am not nor ever will be your "honey." nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #126

Oh, you most DEFINITELY have that right. So put me on ignore and find someone else to bore. Number23 Jul 2013 #130

I'm with you on this olddots Jul 2013 #136

the stupid has run amok in this place hasn't it? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #156

Psst. Willy T. Don't tell anybody but... Kahuna Jul 2013 #172

They can't, and there are several people who do not want to identify themselves sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #144

+1 n/t IL Lib Jul 2013 #67

Hey, Tavis. This is a representative government. You seem pretty smart, Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #8

Tavis Look-at-me Look-at-me I'm THE Important Black Man Smiley? Schema Thing Jul 2013 #10

Tavis Smiley has first and foremost always been... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #164

This President is always thoughtful. mzmolly Jul 2013 #14

Didn't Obama say something a while back , refrencing FDR to the affect, "make me do it"? bahrbearian Jul 2013 #15

Awwww, u mad bro? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #31

The bitterness is strong with this one... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #17

Ok I see so.... burnodo Jul 2013 #28

They challenge Obama's authenticity as a black leader geek tragedy Jul 2013 #33

Obama is not a black leader. Bonobo Jul 2013 #43

I think almost every black DUer would be offended that YOU think YOU DevonRex Jul 2013 #63

Obama is not a black leader. Bonobo Jul 2013 #65

"Barack Obama is not a black leader. He�s a leader who�s black." Bonobo Jul 2013 #71

That was Toure's article from March 2012. Before the investigation DevonRex Jul 2013 #79

It is a general statement. Bonobo Jul 2013 #81

Then why is his strongest support from African-Americans? kwassa Jul 2013 #107

Being supported does NOT make him a "black leader". Bonobo Jul 2013 #109

It sure as hell does. What planet are you from? kwassa Jul 2013 #115

You should get out more. Bonobo Jul 2013 #118

So black people support this man 90% because we are stupid? Number23 Jul 2013 #125

Most of the problems that engage blacks are not unique to the black population. kwassa Jul 2013 #129

Al Sharpton.. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #169

I love it how white Obama haters feel fit to opine on his cred as a black man. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #97

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #105

And there's always one black person to come along and make the crowd feel good Number23 Jul 2013 #131

Ironically, the ones who use Tavis and "Brother West" to prove that geek tragedy Jul 2013 #132

Oh, you know it. And I'm not just talking about Tavis and Corny being the ones people like to trot Number23 Jul 2013 #138

Happens with most oppressed groups. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #139

Sometimes our own internalized sense of inferiority Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #163

Some people can't get past that. tblue Jul 2013 #99

Yes, I do that completely. Bonobo Jul 2013 #106

So their opinion is not legitimate burnodo Jul 2013 #44

"It sends a thrill up the leg of white lefty Obama haters." Are you serious? nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #98

Yes. Not a coincidence that the OP's reaction to Obama's speech on Trayvon geek tragedy Jul 2013 #100

I don't think that's the definition of racist... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #34

He's being played by whites?? burnodo Jul 2013 #46

I agree... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #57

Not what you said burnodo Jul 2013 #153

And he is... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #158

Yes, Drunken Irishman is saying that and... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #162

so you're totally discounting everything these men think burnodo Jul 2013 #165

I've noticed that in every thread you post, you don't Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #166

Oh snap Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #64

Fuck Tavis Smiley...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #18

Tavis Smiley holds a grudge, and has turned into a bit of a punk SoCalDem Jul 2013 #19

Yep...I remember he ranted and raved about that HipChick Jul 2013 #24

OT, LOL your sig pic! Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2013 #32

Smiley has a much larger grudge than that. He isn't nearly perceptive as he thinks he is and always grantcart Jul 2013 #37

i remember this, it's very much about Ego for him JI7 Jul 2013 #68

Criticizing the President's Trayvon Martin remarks is like AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #21

For some he's just not black enough. Know what I mean Willy? great white snark Jul 2013 #22

Lots of white DUers would love to come out and say that. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #30

So Tavis Smiley and Cornel West aren't black???? burnodo Jul 2013 #47

Again, your reading comprehensive skills are horrible. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #171

The ONLY reason Smiley was on MTP today was because they wanted a Black person who they jenmito Jul 2013 #25

That's exactly how "OBAMA BAD" works. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #52

Exactly... jenmito Jul 2013 #69

Amazing how the haters gotta bash him for that speech too and geek tragedy Jul 2013 #27

As one who has falsely been called a "hater" because I have dared to criticize the President... markpkessinger Jul 2013 #35

Sure, and when he does something bad on drones, you criticize him geek tragedy Jul 2013 #38

Smiley is a jackass. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #29

Well that is a technical description of the fellow, lol. grantcart Jul 2013 #39

Tavis and West - two jealous assholes Whisp Jul 2013 #40

Tavis Can't Hide His Disdain for PBO Indykatie Jul 2013 #42

Others in the AA community also criticize Obama burnodo Jul 2013 #48

They Conveniently Forget That Part... WillyT Jul 2013 #50

Willy, you may think that you're slick but please believe me when I say that you aren't Number23 Jul 2013 #54

Many other AA may be critical of some of the President's actions or inactions but they do not kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #66

Have You Ever Heard Of Cornel West ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #73

The hilarious thing about this thread... Bonobo Jul 2013 #120

I Feel Your Pain... WillyT Jul 2013 #134

You don't get to tell black people who our leaders are. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #168

How many of them are trying to claim he deserves no credit geek tragedy Jul 2013 #95

I am black, and *I* have criticized the president... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #167

tavis smiley is a clown Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #45

I have not watched his show, but I greatly respect Cornell West quinnox Jul 2013 #49

I used to revere Cornel West. I loved him. I loved, respected, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #170

how did Trayvon's Parents feel ? JI7 Jul 2013 #55

you know when Republicans bring up people like Larry Elders JI7 Jul 2013 #60

QUiCK , somebody bring up Harry Belafonte JI7 Jul 2013 #62

And why am I not surprised that WillyT dragged this swill into DU? DevonRex Jul 2013 #72

Damn... Sorry You Are Fearful Of A Major Story On The Internet... WillyT Jul 2013 #77

Haha. I haven't been afraid of a goddamn thing for a very long time, WT. DevonRex Jul 2013 #82

Well... You Keep Kicking And Commenting... WillyT Jul 2013 #83

Tavis Smiley bloviating is not a major story. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #94

+1000 zappaman Jul 2013 #87

Fucking Hell! Can't this guy do ANYTHING right? 6000eliot Jul 2013 #75

Tavis Smiley has had a burr under his saddle and refused to let Michelle Obama Peacetrain Jul 2013 #76

Found a direct link to watch the video of what the OP is about quinnox Jul 2013 #78

travis we do`t need another hero... we really know the way home. madrchsod Jul 2013 #80

I heard a plan and I also heard appreciation from so many who heard his words SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #85

Ironic...since I doubt anyone who was black would agree with you.. HipChick Jul 2013 #86

Anyone? That's a lot of people. I could find several examples in one quick search SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #90

I don't need to search.. HipChick Jul 2013 #111

That's kind of like the magic powers that reveal a young man is robbing SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #149

I miss UNREC. zappaman Jul 2013 #88

Does Tavis realize that ecstatic Jul 2013 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author boilerbabe Jul 2013 #121

No intelligent person believes what you just wrote. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #122

I didn't write that post...so I deleted it. boilerbabe Jul 2013 #150

Funny, I was thinking about writing "someone hacked your account and wrote something stupid" geek tragedy Jul 2013 #152

I can't agree with Tavis here fortyfeetunder Jul 2013 #123

I watched the Tavis Smiley show a couple times. LuvLoogie Jul 2013 #140

Love Tavis. The Link Jul 2013 #146

First off, NCTraveler Jul 2013 #147

I read Cornel West's comments on Obama warrprayer Jul 2013 #151

Oh there goes Tavis again trying to make himself feel important by bashing the President. bravenak Jul 2013 #154

I disagree with Tavis wholeheartedly Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #155

I will Kick and Rec this thread. bvar22 Jul 2013 #157

A note regarding Cornel West and Tavis Smiley: Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #159